Yay, Perkins!!!
And yay, smonster!!!
YAY job offer, smonster! But...$6K less? Time to start bargaining! You know you don't have to just take their offer!! Even if they're a nonprofit! Women do that, and they're at a disadvantage!
Also, THIS.
Also, other dr. has not called me back. Guess what? I ain't getting stabbed. Bite me bitca. Lost my bizness.
Honestly, I think you should let her know why you're ditching her ass. Someone who doesn't believe in listening to the patients and working WITH them needs to get called out on it. "MD" does not stand for "Me, deity."
The job ad stated a 5k range, and they offered me 1k from the top, to go up to the top after 90 days. It's way more than I made when I last worked as a carpenter (like over 2x more) and honestly, I think it's fair. It's a step back from what I've been doing, and I knew I was probably looking at a paycut. And hey, it's sure better than the $11k Americorps stipend I've been seeing posted for similar jobs.
my post above went weird.
but yay not ya for smonster
and a yayayayay for perkins
I would still ask for a small uptick. "I would really like to take it, but can you see your way to top plus 1 or 2k?" They may come back with "this is the best we can do", and I would decide ahead of time if you're willing to live with it.
My current job is the first one where I made myself counter-offer, even though I was desperate to get out of my job at the time. I did it because I was tired of kicking myself all the time for never having done it before. And it makes a huge difference.
They offered X + 5k bonus potential. I came back and said I would really be more comfortable with (X + 5k) + 5k bonus potential. They came back to me with (X + 5k) + 2k bonus potential and I snapped it up.
The thing to remember is that anything you get up front just compounds. So I didn't just get an extra 5K that year, I've gotten that every year since. And percentage based increases are starting from 5K higher than they would otherwise.
The fact that women are, generally speaking, not encouraged/socialized/confident doing this kind of thing is a big reason for the persistance of the pay gap.
smonster, is the cost of living significantly lower in Nola? I had to take a 6K paycut when I came here, and it sucked, but the cheapness of child care made it less sucky. (Well, that and the fact that mr. flea had a JOB after 6 years of grad school.)
Maybe, Smonster, you could go along the lines of "if you can guarantee me the big easy I can live without the cash"
but, you know, in nice words
Oh, and smonster..
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My current job is the first one where I made myself counter-offer, even though I was desperate to get out of my job at the time. I did it because I was tired of kicking myself all the time for never having done it before. And it makes a huge difference.
This! My current job I actually didn't, and should've. But the job before this, I did...which helped me have a higher salary THIS job, because even though I was only at the last job for four months, they looked at that salary, and said "so you were making around (my actual salary+$10K)? I'm afraid we can only offer (actual salary+$5K)..."
I ordered a filing cabinet from West Elm. I was getting sick of keeping my files in crates, and I figure, if I'm going to buy a real filing cabinet, I might as well get a nice-looking one, and West Elm had one that matches my desk. I didn't notice when I ordered it that that item has in-home delivery, but once I did notice, I figured that was cool -- they'll bring it, assemble it, and take away all the packaging. I've been getting sick of assembling things.
Anyway, it turns out that, for my part of Pennsylvania, they only deliver on every other Tuesday, and only between 8 and 5. They call the Saturday before to give a two-hour window when they'll deliver. They called this Saturday to tell me that they'd be delivering it tomorrow, but it was during a time when I couldn't be home, because I was teaching. So I called to reschedule, and they could reschedule me for two weeks from tomorrow, and they could put down that I'd prefer a particular time slot (the only one when I'm not teaching), but they can't guarantee that, and if they can't give me that time zone two weeks from tomorrow, then I'll have to wait another two weeks.
How do they expect to deliver to anyone who has a full-time job?
