I have the same issue with tramp stamp and wife beater! Ah, the delicious hive mind.
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Scrappy - Sep 15, 2010 8:24:01 am PDT #2698 of 30000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Trudy Booth - Sep 15, 2010 8:28:30 am PDT #2699 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Oh, and "wife beater" isn't improved at all by abreviating it to "beater". No, you did not make it unoffensive by doing so, clothing marketing person.
Steph L. - Sep 15, 2010 8:29:37 am PDT #2700 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I have the same issue with tramp stamp and wife beater!
Me, four. BIG time.
brenda m - Sep 15, 2010 8:37:20 am PDT #2701 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Yep. One reason ass antlers is so much better - aside from being funnier. It's a judgement on how some of them look, not on the person as a whole. And even so - Trudy, thanks for pointing out the gender differential on tattoo placement. It's an excellent point, and makes it even more frustrating that that particular placement has gotten so denigrated.
Sean K - Sep 15, 2010 8:39:59 am PDT #2702 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Huh. I've never ever thought of "wife beater" as derogatory to women. I consider it derogatory to a particular class of men, actually. And for that reason, I wont wear those kinds of shirts. ETA: Well that, and they look like ass on me, and almost everybody else.
Trudy Booth - Sep 15, 2010 8:41:30 am PDT #2703 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Not interested in derogatating men either!
brenda m - Sep 15, 2010 8:42:04 am PDT #2704 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
It's not derogatory to women in particular, I would say, other than the fact that it's making a joke out of something that is seriously not a joking matter.
Sean K - Sep 15, 2010 8:45:15 am PDT #2705 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
While an admirable notion, I don't think that's entirely true, Trudy. I never known you to shy away from calling a douchnozzle a douchenozzle, whether male or female.
And the point I was making is that I consider it derogatory toward a particular group of men, whose one common trait is being a douchnozzle. The penis thing is kind of incidental, at that point.
Kate P. - Sep 15, 2010 8:46:32 am PDT #2706 of 30000
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
ITA with Trudy (edit: re: tramp stamp). I've gotten used to the term, but it's still shitty. I love my lower-back tattoo, and the placement was pretty damn deliberate for personally meaningful reasons. And I think it looks lovely there.
Sean K - Sep 15, 2010 8:51:26 am PDT #2707 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
It's not derogatory to women in particular, I would say, other than the fact that it's making a joke out of something that is seriously not a joking matter.
I don't find it particularly jokey.
I'm in total agreement with everyone on "tramp stamp," but I must say, I'm surprised to see objection of the term "wife beater." I guess I'm coming at it from a different place in my head, but I always considered the term derogatory of men who beat their wives, which is a group I would argue deserve derogation.