sj, sending a note or card is a good idea. Flowers might be too much, multiple arrangements of flowers can get to be too much very quickly. Visiting would depend on your relationship with them - I'd say if you feel like going to see them, go ahead, but don't feel obligated to. The old standard of dropping by with a casserole is a good one - you can just leave it with them if they want to be left alone, or stay a while if they want company, and they have a reminder to eat.

Fracking A Steph, it's a collect call for him. Not like it would be going out of his way to make one, you would be the ones paying for it! (trying to look for a redeeming possibility...) Mebbe he's trying to save ya'll the cost of a bunch of collect calls?

Come visit me in San Francisco, Nora! I love hanging out with you.

Aw! Yeah, we had fun, didn't we?

Nora, I wish I was there so I could go hang out with you RIGHT NOW. Soon, precioussss, soon...

CAN'T WAIT!!! Hey, Law's coming down too!

Plus, he was living back with his parents, and he took pills before bed knowing his elderly mother would be the one to find him in the morning. There is plenty to be angry about.

Oh my. Since I should not speak ill of the dead, let's just say I am thinking ill and leave it at that.

(oops, I created this post last night and went to bed without posting.)

Also, Barb, that is excellent! Let me know when you firm up plans!

LOL, now my 14 yo sister who has only watched S1 and S2 of Buffy (plus a few random episodes here and there, including Willow attempting to destroy the world only to be foiled by Xander love and the yellow crayon) is trying to get me to spill every spoiler ever. What happens to Tara? Who is the blonde with Xander? OMG, Angel got his own show!!!!

She is adorabubble.

Wait, where is the dog now?

Dog is at Tep's house.

Steph, I am experiencing vicarious rage just hearing about it. Maybe he's ashamed? IDK.

CAN'T WAIT!!! Hey, Law's coming down too!

This week? Is she volunteering?

Plus, he was living back with his parents, and he took pills before bed knowing his elderly mother would be the one to find him in the morning. There is plenty to be angry about.

Oh my. Since I should not speak ill of the dead, let's just say I am thinking ill and leave it at that.

Whitefonted for possible triggers: My mother found my sister seizing on the floor 18 hrs after she'd attempted suicide via pills, while my parents were in NOLA for their anniversary. Sis was in a coma for 4 days. To this day my mother cannot talk about finding her.

Suicide (attempted or successful) is a very complicated, awful thing.

Not because we're petty or shallow, but because it seems against reason: trying to help the very thing that's hurting you. Trying to remember this isn't a "thing", but a person. And at times, realizing they're beyond help, find the inner strength and cut them from your life.

So much wisdom here.

My father was, as I've said before, a certified monster. And yet, when I found myself back in town after moving a country away from him and being out of touch for years and years, I went to see him.

details,details,details...Upshot, as I sat on the bathroom floor, clipping his nails (no details, you'll thank me for that) I thought to myself, "I must be the stoopidest woman in the world. Or, I'm up for canonization."

The next thought that went through my mind was, "I would not leave an injured dog in the street." I was doing what I needed to do for MYSELF. The fact that my father benefited was essentially beside the point.

After he died, I realized that that trip was one of the best gifts I had ever given myself. I was clean. I had done and said everything that I needed to. The healing of that cannot be overestimated.

Seska, I hope that your sweetheart's heart is unburdened in a similar way. Perhaps it doesn't feel that way now, but in the end, that would be my prayer for her.

Teppy, as someone who's had a loved on in jail and prison, something else could be preventing him from calling. Everything besides food is a "privilege" in jail so he could very well not be allowed to make a call.

Also, I made a FOUR HOUR one-way trip to visit my brother in prison. I was on the list my brother gave to the prison but I was turned away after going through extensive pat downs because a clerk left my name off the list. Then I had to drive four hours back wondering if my brother intentionally left me off the list or if he was off his meds again.

I hope you can figure it out with the ex's son and the situation improves for you.