Book: Afraid I might be needing a preacher. Mal: That's good. You lie there and be ironical.

'Safe'


Spike's Bitches 46: Don't I get a cookie?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


smonster - Mar 12, 2011 8:48:46 am PST #17337 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

The hivemind, she fierce.


erikaj - Mar 12, 2011 8:57:05 am PST #17338 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

Yes, I have a field manual for homicide detectives that is probably the most expensive non-electronic thing in here, and a biography of somebody who works in an M.E.'s office. Barb, if that doesn't work, maybe you can call someone from your local medical examiner? They might be happy to talk to someone who doesn't cringe.


Typo Boy - Mar 12, 2011 9:03:22 am PST #17339 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Another possible resource may be the University of Tennessee Body Farm where they lay out donated corpses on 2.5 acres to study their decomposition. You may have to wait until Monday to call them. 865-974-4408.

Out of curiousity I googled, and apparently there are many other body farms. The Wikipedia link: [link]

Any body farm should be able to answer your question.


Trudy Booth - Mar 12, 2011 9:03:24 am PST #17340 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Was Tim his stepfather at one point? If so I think I can see the impulse, but the extent needs to be reigned juuuuuuust a bit.

Billytea, my sister's industry is like that. With added 'it's bad luck for a woman to touch anything on a boat' goodness.

I think I'd be saying a lot of "Don't worry, I'm not having my period" and "That only matters if I'm menstruating, I'm not right now" or "You're right, I'm menstruating right now, I'd better not."

I have no idea if the superstition has anything to do with menstruation (it may well if indirectly) but periods are like KRYPTONITE to some guys (I'd bet folding money these guys) and it would be fun to watch them freak out.


Strix - Mar 12, 2011 9:08:32 am PST #17341 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I agree. When D's brother was having some trouble, I was ok with him coming and getting some breathing room here for a week. But if D had stated that he wanted him and his dog to be able to stay with us for a year until he got back on his feet, I would have no, that is aboslutely out of the question. And that's his BROTHER, not an ex's grown-ass son!

But let me ask, and I am only trying to get full information: had Tim stated that if things don't work out, he wants your house to be offered to whathisface? Is this explicit, or implicit?

And if it is not been said explicitly, then, in addition to the talk you need to have with Tim about how kindness and compassion needs to be extended even MORE completely to his partner than to ex's FuckupSon, then you need to talk about your fears and concerns and feelings that he is putting the needs of his ex's grown son above yours and about how this is leading to a crack in your solidness as a couple.

Compassion and kindness is a wonderful thing. But you deserve compassion, kindness and respect.

Your home is your refuge. I can't overemphasize this, esp. as you are not a person who likes or needs to be with people, or touched or out in social situations. Having this person in your home would be like being touched by strangers; it would be like acid eating away at you. This is not ok; it isn't an option. This person has made his own damn bed, and he will have to lie in it.

I might say (and here I am putting myself in your shoes; I hope you know I am only offering perspective and a suggestion for you perusal) "I am not uncompassionate. I know you feel responsibility and affection for him, and that is part of what makes me love you. But this is OUR home, and I cannot be comfortable in our -- my home -- with another person or his pet. This is what I can do before I go crazy: he can stay (and his little dog too) for X days. After that, no matter what, they both need to be elsewhere. we can work on strategies to get him help, to get him moved, but after that, he needs to rely on resources that do not take away my stability, comfort and peace. I can't handle it. And I shouldn't have to. This is not an ultimatum or a challenge or a throw-down. This is simply what I have to have to be a functioning human being. This is not about what I SHOULD do; this is about what I CAN do."


smonster - Mar 12, 2011 9:16:43 am PST #17342 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

periods are like KRYPTONITE to some guys (I'd bet folding money these guys) and it would be fun to watch them freak out.

Ahaha. The badasses I work with won't buy their girls' tampons.


Strix - Mar 12, 2011 9:21:21 am PST #17343 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

It always amazes me that some guys will do most anything to get INSIDE a vagina, but dealing with a vag as anything other than a penis-wallet is anathema.

My eye-rolling, let me show you it.


beekaytee - Mar 12, 2011 9:29:42 am PST #17344 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

I totally agree with Erin (well said, dear) with one minor variation.

When in high dudgeon, it is easy to focus on the potentially awful stuff that hasn't happened yet. I firmly believe that focusing on the 'I'm going to lose it ifs' rather than on the 'here is what it will take for this to work out well for us's' just brings the negative outcome that much closer to reality.

Knowing Tim only by what I read here, it seems hard to imagine that he would want to sacrifice the awesome thing he's got going on for anything, much less this.

I can't think of a time in my own life when an angry ultimatum has ever gotten me what I thought I wanted. I've never heard, "Oh my god, you are totally right. I AM the world's biggest asshole and, knowing that, I will now do exactly what you ask."

I HAVE experienced my feelings being respected when I express them clearly, with perhaps less dudgeon than I actually feel. BUT, without piling on a bunch of stuff that is fodder for defensiveness (on both sides).


Vortex - Mar 12, 2011 9:56:26 am PST #17345 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Tep, I think that you need to say

it's the fact that it's Tim's FORMER relationship that's taking precedence over his current one.

this to Tim, he may not realize. Also, if he is going to help the kid, the extent of the help has to be explicit as in "you can stay here for one week. After that, we are putting your stuff in storage, for which we will pay one month."

Also, I would not give him a key to the house. Which may seem harsh, and inconvenient for you, but it makes it clear that he is not staying.


DCJensen - Mar 12, 2011 10:51:42 am PST #17346 of 30000
All is well that ends in pizza.

Eyes are the first parts to rigidify. After seven days they're bulging from the sockets but still intact. Not sure exactly when they collapse.

Yeah, this is how far I was able to get with the information I've already found.

About a month, according to this: [link]

ETA: URL that was stripped out.

EATA: Very disturbing for those who don't handle details of decomposition well.