I don'thave much to add to the gender discussion (for one obvious reason at least. I will, however, say that there are people in my office who simply disgust me when the subject of gender comes up. Some examples from yesterday:
1. The firm should hire more girls (entire conversation, never women, just girls), and should make sure they're good looking.
2. The firm should apply the "wall test" to any new female hires. (i.e., have them stand up and walk towards the wall. If they touch the wall nose-first, they're out.)
3. However, women (sorry, "girls") make bad financial advisers, because women in that role aren't feminine enough.
Huh. I'm still feeling pretty frustrated and pissed off about this. (To be clear, we have women who work in the office - the managing director is a woman - and everyone's always polite and friendly towards them, no suggestion of that Tucker Max stuff. Until the women are all absent and they start 'joking around'. And it's always the same damn joke.)
billytea, I was always impressed at the number of women actuaries at DH's last insurance job. I think the financial field might be different but I know that the VP in charge of Nationwide's international investments was a woman.
billytea, I'm so glad you are one of us!
Tep , I am sorry there is way too much stuff on you plate. Good luck
I didn't see what you saw in the conversation,Dasiy, but others did. Maybe because I gave up make up long ago. and gave up covering the grey . and I don't/can't flirt. there are some stories that helped me chose this ay, but I have strong no fuss leanings anyway
Ugh Steph. I really get your position. Accepting that Tim's life is your life is one thing, but his ex's son seems like a burden he isn't obliged to take on. I hope it all works out.
1. The firm should hire more girls (entire conversation, never women, just girls), and should make sure they're good looking.
2. The firm should apply the "wall test" to any new female hires. (i.e., have them stand up and walk towards the wall. If they touch the wall nose-first, they're out.)
3. However, women (sorry, "girls") make bad financial advisers, because women in that role aren't feminine enough.
Oh for fucking fuck's sake. Seriously, I hate everything.
I've been skimming and billytea's post just made my head explode.
Are you posting from the 50's now, billytea?
Are you posting from the 50's now, billytea?
Seriously. My industry has more than its fair share of alpha male crap, but I've never before worked in a place with such little regard for this stuff. Hell, in my Philadelphia office I saw disciplinary action taken against someone for emailing an anti-gay joke. I really have no experience dealing with this kind of thing before.
Billytea, my sister's industry is like that. With added 'it's bad luck for a woman to touch anything on a boat' goodness. I have so much admiration for how she gets things done and sets people straight when she can.
Steph, Kat, Pix, and all the buffistas whom the universe needs to take out to a four-star dinner and apologize, I hope things turn around. Steph, I hope Tim's ex' son gets to Texas as soon as possible.
I'm getting my Japan news from Rachel Maddow tweets and Ginger. And hoping.
Zuisa, I'm glad you are safe in Australia. To everyone worried about family and friends in Japan, I have no words, only much ~ma and hope. Japan~ma, planet.
(I'm afraid that was something of a cross-thread meara, but I'm tiny screened & low battery. It's what I can do. )
