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Spike's Bitches 46: Don't I get a cookie?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Daisy Jane - Mar 10, 2011 11:37:53 am PST #17165 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I don't know. Talking about being able to take advantage of the way a guy decides to value the way a woman looks doesn't really strike me as a good thing. It's still them deciding whether a woman is worth treating well and they can take it away in a heartbeat if they decide they want more than flirting or if you, as a woman, refuse to play the boobs/pout/flirt game.

I don't blame anybody for doing what they gotta do, but I don't think it's good for anyone.


Connie Neil - Mar 10, 2011 11:44:15 am PST #17166 of 30000
brillig

I don't blame anybody for doing what they gotta do, but I don't think it's good for anyone.

The dichotomy between social justice and a $50 parking ticket often falls to saving the money.

Anymore I seem to terrify people. Honestly I think it's just that I'll look them in the eye and force them to talk to me. Which, in this area, is terrifying for some people, to have a woman being direct and assertive. And I will confess that as the looks have gone, I'm happy to play up the "I'm old enough to be your mother, doofus" factor. I'm digging the onset of cronehood. Hubby works the good ol' boy/curmudgeon thing like nobody's business.


Typo Boy - Mar 10, 2011 11:45:53 am PST #17167 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

And men can get out of traffic tickets too. I was once stopped for speeding and asked "do you have any good reason why you wer going that fast?" My reply was "officer, I wish I could think of a good lie right now, but nothing comes to mind." The patrolman burst out laughing and let me off with a warning.


Kathy A - Mar 10, 2011 11:46:17 am PST #17168 of 30000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I'll look them in the eye and force them to talk to me.

When I work retail, I totally do that! And, I'm looking forward to doing that as a reference librarian. It's the best way to get the info I need to help them out the most.


erikaj - Mar 10, 2011 11:50:43 am PST #17169 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

Quester, glad you like the tag...it was Jon Stewart talking about my boyfriend Keith. To exploit one's looks, one has to be sure she has something to exploit, which I am not often. I have played the Impaired card more than a few times, though it always makes me feel dirty and does my self-loathing no favors.I could be a diversion for the Leverage posse though.


§ ita § - Mar 10, 2011 11:52:05 am PST #17170 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've never acted like I was dumb or incapable to get anything extra. I won't do that. That's a line.

Take advantage of my looks? I'll do that. Take advantage of someone's underestimation of me because of my looks or gender? Yes, I will. And when they stop judging me based on shallow stuff, it won't work anymore. And that's perfectly fine.

Because it's a transparent privilege. Just like you can't stop being white in a white-dominated world, I'm not rationally going to stop having F cup breasts. I know it's a shallow trite privilege. And if I woke up tomorrow and the privilege went away, I wouldn't cry for a second. Just, you know, leave me my boobs.

Honestly, Daisy, you get stuff because you're pretty. You can't make people not favour that.


Daisy Jane - Mar 10, 2011 11:55:10 am PST #17171 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I think it does a number on some people's self-esteem and makes it easy to turn a blind eye to just how crappy it is that men still get to decide who gets whatever based on who they'd most like to sleep with. It makes me feel demeaned.


§ ita § - Mar 10, 2011 11:57:08 am PST #17172 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

men still get to decide who gets whatever based on who they'd most like to sleep with

Women do it too. To women. And to men. And men do it to men. Sexual appeal greases the wheels on average across the board. Sexual equality won't make it go away.


Calli - Mar 10, 2011 11:57:15 am PST #17173 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I was once accused of using my looks to get my way. At the time I was certain I had no looks to use (I'm still doubtful, depending on the day and phase of the moon), so I figured it was all on him.

I'd like to try being a man for a couple of days. But on the whole, I'm ok with my current situation, institutionalized misogyny and all.


Ginger - Mar 10, 2011 11:59:18 am PST #17174 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I did want to be a boy, but not in the gender dysphoria sense. I grew up wanting to play baseball and have a chemistry set, but I'm old enough that those weren't options. Then I spent most of my career working for organizations where all the non-clerical women employees could fit in an elevator. Those same organizations also did not reward guys who respected women, took time off work for their kids, or had wives with careers. Gay men had no chance either.