Kaylee: So, uh, how come you don't care where you're going? Book: 'Cause how you get there is the worthier part.

'Serenity'


Spike's Bitches 46: Don't I get a cookie?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Fred Pete - Mar 08, 2011 12:08:42 pm PST #17029 of 30000
Ann, that's a ferret.

((((ChiKat and Mickey)))) A bit of a quibble, though. Our experience has been that the procedures aren't necessarily extremely painful for the cat. But cats are more likely to go under anesthesia for procedures. And the risks of anesthesia are greater if the cat already has health problems.


Ginger - Mar 08, 2011 12:14:39 pm PST #17030 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

No way in hell was any adult who was in my life back then going to do any more than sign a paper to get me into school.

This is exactly why I'm opposed to vouchers and the very concept of No Child Left Behind. I know a number of successful people who had uncaring or clueless parents who would never have made any effort to get their children to better schools. If you set up the school system so that the students with involved parents are siphoned off into private schools and better-performing schools that the parents have to drive their children to, you doom the children who in the past pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps, with the aid of a good public school and library system. I don't know what so many people have this fantasy that everyone has good parents.

Yay for Sparky's timely school visit.

Bonnie, I'm glad you're still with us and I hope Bartleby will be for years to come.


Scrappy - Mar 08, 2011 12:15:58 pm PST #17031 of 30000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

What Ginger said.

Plus pet-health-ma to all Buffista pets.


Daisy Jane - Mar 08, 2011 12:23:25 pm PST #17032 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I don't know what so many people have this fantasy that everyone has good parents.

They should have chosen better parents DUH!


javachik - Mar 08, 2011 12:37:41 pm PST #17033 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I love you guys.


Zenkitty - Mar 08, 2011 12:52:08 pm PST #17034 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I don't know what so many people have this fantasy that everyone has good parents.

Yeah. And even the parents who are the best parents they can be, can't always fight and claw their way to the top of the heap every day for their kid. Some folks just don't have the emotional resources to do much more than survive. My mom couldn't; like it or not, being a parent didn't magically make her able to overcome a lifetime of hardship and emotional neglect, to always be able to do what I needed - or even to understand what I needed. That wasn't her fault. She loved me and she did her best, and in the long run her best was pretty darn good, but being a parent made life much harder for her.


Daisy Jane - Mar 08, 2011 12:58:57 pm PST #17035 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

My mom couldn't; like it or not, being a parent didn't magically make her able to overcome a lifetime of hardship and emotional neglect, to always be able to do what I needed - or even to understand what I needed. That wasn't her fault. She loved me and she did her best, and in the long run her best was pretty darn good, but being a parent made life much harder for her.

And this is why, I think, a lot of people like me and a few others I know are trying not to have kids. We look at our parents and we just think we'd rather not. For this, we are monsters who hate children.

I think that whole, "Oh you'll change your mind" mindset may come from people who knew or were people who once their circumstances changed (more money, better support systems, more security) it makes like less hard to be a parent and so they choose it and think others might too.


beekaytee - Mar 08, 2011 1:02:43 pm PST #17036 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

I don't know what so many people have this fantasy that everyone has good parents.

Sing it Sistah.

All the school paperwork that was filled out on my behalf (before my step mother came along, and even after that when it came to college) was filled out by, you guessed it...me!

It does warm my heart so much though when I see the parents who can and do go to bat for their kids. I wish they didn't have to in order to get quality for their kids, but it is good to see.


beekaytee - Mar 08, 2011 1:05:54 pm PST #17037 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

"Oh you'll change your mind" mindset

Ha. I was just telling a friend of mine the other day about choosing to be sterilized at 29. It was because I care about children, believe it or not.

The doctor initially refused. "You are too young to make this decision" blahblahblah. Bless his heart, he was doing what he thought was best. I replied, "Let me tell you a little story..." About 4 minutes into my life story he threw his hands up in defeat and signed the papers without another word.


Zenkitty - Mar 08, 2011 1:14:10 pm PST #17038 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

And this is why, I think, a lot of people like me and a few others I know are trying not to have kids. We look at our parents and we just think we'd rather not.

Yep, exactly. I know I couldn't be a really good parent, no matter how much I wanted to.* People tell me I'd surprise myself. Maybe I would. But I'm not willing to bet a kid's (emotional) life on it, and they shouldn't either.

*And to clarify, I don't want to. If I had a kid, I would want to be the best parent ever, but I don't want to be a parent. That's the real reason.