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Spike's Bitches 46: Don't I get a cookie?  

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Aims - Feb 15, 2011 5:04:24 pm PST #15663 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Aims, between how young Em is and the fact that her school allows so much self-direction, I honestly think holding her back is sommething to consider if you don't want to think about changing to a more rigorously structured setting.

It's just her classroom that is so self-directed and after this year, she'd be going into a more structured classroom, anyway. Which is a huge reason of why we want to see how she does with more structure. And at this point, I'd RATHER she went to more structure. I think she'll do better.


Cass - Feb 15, 2011 5:11:25 pm PST #15664 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

It sounds like more structure can only be good.

And, if that isn't enough, there really is no sitgma at this age to holding her back. Which is good as well.


Liese S. - Feb 15, 2011 5:14:50 pm PST #15665 of 30000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, now`s the best time to do it. Although I will say, I was the youngest in my class, always, and the physically smallest, and painfully shy, easily embarrassed. And I was fine. In fact, when I was able to finish early, it was a huge relief, so if I`d been held back to start I would have been miserable. So it is possible, although I wasn`t having to deal with some of what Em is.


billytea - Feb 15, 2011 5:22:04 pm PST #15666 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Cass, admit it, you're a natural born firestarter. We should just send you out with an extinguisher strapped to your back and a red box saying PULL IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.

Yes! And then the rest of us will place bets on how long it will take you to set the extinguisher on fire.


beekaytee - Feb 15, 2011 5:27:17 pm PST #15667 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

I'm done with B. Please wish me some strength to not throw myself at him when I am in his presence next month. He didn't do anything wrong... I'm just cutting myself off for my own good.

I'm with you smonster. Anytime you need to borrow some strength, or belief in your higher good, I'm there.

And blessing on the bomb-diggity therapist. Three cheers for you both!


Vortex - Feb 15, 2011 5:29:01 pm PST #15668 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I'm done with B. Please wish me some strength to not throw myself at him when I am in his presence next month. He didn't do anything wrong... I'm just cutting myself off for my own good.

you know that I'm on speed dial!


WindSparrow - Feb 15, 2011 5:46:40 pm PST #15669 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

My ADHD looks like this: I get overwhelmed, I shut down and don't do anything. I think that Em does the same. And the more pressure she gets, the more she shuts down.

Not a parent, or a teacher, but I have some pretty clear memories of what early elementary school feels like for a girl with ADD - I totally see all your points countering their reasoning. I do not know what the ultimate best answer is, but I do strongly believe that a more structured environment will help - particularly if part of that structure reduces the pressure situations for Em. Pressure to perform, can futz up the performance of a kid with ADD like nobody's business. When I was in second and third grade, those damned timed math fact tests were the bane of my existence. And my teacher thought I just did not know them, couldn't do math, until some standardized test revealed a better picture of my skill level. When Mrs. Boyd realized that the problem was more about performing under pressure, she and my parents were able to help me work on the performance so that my accomplishments in class better reflected my abilities. Having both the structure that will work for Em, and a teacher who is on Em's side, will make a difference.


WindSparrow - Feb 15, 2011 5:48:03 pm PST #15670 of 30000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Cass, that was a scary story about you and your dad on that plane. I'm glad you weren't on fire.

{{{{smonster}}}}


Cass - Feb 15, 2011 5:48:05 pm PST #15671 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Strength, smonster. It can be hard to make that call but you need to take care of yourself first and foremost.

Yes! And then the rest of us will place bets on how long it will take you to set the extinguisher on fire.

I feel like the flammable court jester.


meara - Feb 15, 2011 5:57:57 pm PST #15672 of 30000

I'm done with B. Please wish me some strength to not throw myself at him when I am in his presence next month. He didn't do anything wrong... I'm just cutting myself off for my own good.

Vortex is on speed dial, and I'm on "Late night phone calls aren't so late on the west coast" dial! And yay for liking your therapist.

Aimee, I think everything you say makes sense. It definitely sounds like a change to a more structured environment might help. Lord knows the few times in elementary school I was supposed to be working at my own pace, I'd do like, three things quick, slack off forever, and then do whatever the minimum to catch up was (all procrastinatey and not done well). And my arithmetic skills were never speedy, so I was shocked in 6th grade when I was one of only a few kids who tested into the super-advanced-take-algebra-early group. Arithmetic speed is overrated. Would any place she goes have the option of working ahead/above grade level? So that if you did hold her back, she could get extra where she's weak and so on? Cause that might really be a good plan. Especially if you can't manage to switch her mid-year like you want. I was one of the youngest and smallest, also, and it only rarely bothered me. But also consider the future--even if it doesn't matter now, will she be unable to get her driver's license/go to PG13 movies/drink until waaaaaay after all her friends have? (In college, there were a couple of our friends who'd skipped a grade...and couldn't drink at graduation. Which SUCKED)