The article seems to imply that that is what most female celebs who id as bi experience. Which is a disservice.

Most people who, in my experience, id as bi have something of a gender preference, some stronger than others, but all assert than it's more than a gender that seals the deal for a deep relationship.

Ugh. I was lecturing tonight on the dangers of dichotomy; it has carried over. Either/or is rarely our friend, y'all!

I think all my gay male relatives are gay Gay gay. I probably have as many bi female lesbian relatives as queer, and maybe one lesbian who did dick. And then absolutely no bicurious male cousins (though maybe some on the down low), but def bicurious chicks in the family.

Uh. and some straight up straight people too. I think there are some of those left.

msbelle -- Moving can complicate COBRA coverage for people, especially with HMOs & PPOs; when you talk to HR you need to know if your current plan offers coverage at your new home.

yep, that is on the list of things to ask. I hate my insurance company, so god help me if I have to call them to get answers.

ita's family is the hoyay-est!

I think the article had one thing right; I think it is generally more societally acceptable for female sexuality to be more fluid.

I know more women who have explored more boundaries than men (although perhaps I am just not getting all the juice). Maybe it's female social patterning; I know I certainly have touched intimate zones and kissed and hugged women more than I see men doing it with their male friends. Slap ass, hugs and joke junk grabbing with the guys, but women will embrace, stroke, kiss, touch faces, cheek hug more.

I think that Helen Mirren is more beautiful now in her sixties than she was younger.

Slap ass, hugs and joke junk grabbing with the guys, but women will embrace, stroke, kiss, touch faces, cheek hug more.

absolutely. I can't count the number of times I've made out with Buffista women, but I bet that if Drew and Scola started making out, we would notice (and applaud, but that might just be us)

I know more women who have explored more boundaries than men (although perhaps I am just not getting all the juice). Maybe it's female social patterning; I know I certainly have touched intimate zones and kissed and hugged women more than I see men doing it with their male friends. Slap ass, hugs and joke junk grabbing with the guys, but women will embrace, stroke, kiss, touch faces, cheek hug more.

I have a pet theory on this. Its that (speaking in the broadest strokes imaginable) boys are socialized to "get girls" and girls are socialized to "have orgasms".

A friend of mine's pet theory (not completely incompatible with mine) is that sexually inexperienced males can be lacking in the female O department. So a sexually inexperienced female has sex with one of them, has no O, and thinks, "Huh, I must be lesbian". Then she has sex with a woman (who has practiced such things), has an O and thinks, "Yep, I'm lesbian."

Throw these in with the all-too-common straight boy mortal terror of "someone thinking I'm a fag" (instilled via insults from peers and coaches from the earliest possible age) and the lassies are just gonna be 'sperimentin' more than the lads.

I bet that if Drew and Scola started making out, we would notice (and applaud, but that might just be us)

Dude, you weren't THERE for that F2F?! Tragic!

I think I lean more towards PT#2, although I hope and think women are BECOMING more socialized to "get orgasms."

I need to "get" one; I have hit the marital tired zone -- it's been...over a month?! Huh, I gotta attack that boy tomorrow night!

Its that (speaking in the broadest strokes imaginable) boys are socialized to "get girls" and girls are socialized to "have orgasms".

Not the opposite? Because I think of girls as more conditioned to "get relationships" and boys as more conditioned to "get laid." If I were to generalize way, way, way more broadly than I am comfortable doing.

I meant specifically the sexual goal: Pussy v. Os.

Yeah, there is deffinately more "get a relationship" for teh girls.