I'm just trying to tell you that we have nothing in common besides both of us liking your penis.

Anya ,'Dirty Girls'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kat - Sep 28, 2010 6:54:33 pm PDT #26687 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Running away like a chickenshit and being avoidant is totally an option.

Not in my situation. And most likely not in msbelle's either. And not really in yours either.

No one is superhuman. As sara point out, we all just get up each day and do the work of living.


sarameg - Sep 28, 2010 7:17:49 pm PDT #26688 of 30001

I try, and sometimes fail, at not ever saying "I don't know how you do it." Realistically, it may not be my choice so I really don't get it. But I've had examples from friends, or I've gone through my own spells of other to which I know, you just deal. You do it. Here even , people marvel at what I do on weekends/weekdays. Well, hell. Me too. There was a place in my life that was unthinkable. And there wasn't guilt involved at not doing, I just wasn't mentally able to. I'm at a better place, I can now, and that surprises even me. I just wish all my friends could arrive there, where things unthinkable are possible.


Zenkitty - Sep 28, 2010 7:18:21 pm PDT #26689 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Mostly if suffering and sacrifice weren't part of gifts then that O. Henry story wouldn't exist.

Gift of the Magi, I assume? I hated that story. They both gave up something they loved, for nothing. At least she could grow her hair back.


Kat - Sep 28, 2010 7:26:47 pm PDT #26690 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

But, zenkitty, sacrifice, even of the banal variety, is part of any gift. Like I can spend the $X on a person (and I hope to do it thoughtfully) or I can have that $X for myself.

sara, I know most people who say "I don't know how you do it!" or some variant mean it generously or mean it in way to offer support. But it's still irritating.

All of this reminds me of when I was pregnant. I was debating have an amnio (and HA! I don't know if I even got that far) and in discussing it with friends I realized that I wasn't going to terminate if either baby had some chromosomal defect so what was the point. A coworker said, "Because then you could be ready." It's all sort of ironic now.

In hindsight even if I had known how things would turn out I would still have proceeded. Both kids have brought so much to my life and Grace is especially a blessing. Plus there's no way to be ready.

In other news, I got both my Tdap vaccine and a flu shot today. I am utterly worried that someone in my household is going to get pertussis. We have an ENT appointment to build a plan for tracheal reconstruction in November and if we could keep Grace healthy until then I'd be so so grateful. Actually if we could keep her healthy beyond that I'd dig that too.


sarameg - Sep 28, 2010 7:29:35 pm PDT #26691 of 30001

Loki just exploded my balance ball/chair. Oops?


Trudy Booth - Sep 28, 2010 7:30:36 pm PDT #26692 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Was it funny as shit? Scary? Anti-climactic?


Burrell - Sep 28, 2010 7:41:51 pm PDT #26693 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I keep trying to say something and then worrying I'll be putting my foot in my mouth, so I stop. But it basically goes, I get your point Kat of disliking the "you're so strong" because of the implication "I couldn't do that." Which is just--how does one react to that? Oh, so you're glad you're not me, but I am?

I mean, that's a hard line, and it's made harder by the fact that it's meant as a compliment most of the time.


Trudy Booth - Sep 28, 2010 7:46:19 pm PDT #26694 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

The unsaid follow-up to "you're so strong" could be "I'd fuckng snap like a twig."


Cashmere - Sep 28, 2010 7:56:08 pm PDT #26695 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

This conversation is giving me lots of ideas for a column on parenting special needs kids.


Strega - Sep 28, 2010 8:01:26 pm PDT #26696 of 30001

But, zenkitty, sacrifice, even of the banal variety, is part of any gift. Like I can spend the $X on a person (and I hope to do it thoughtfully) or I can have that $X for myself.

Gifts can be a expression of plenty. I mean, I do get the sacrifice POV, and I often have it, but... there are times when it is sharing in bounty, for the joy of it.

Of course, this is why potlatches were banned...