My food is problematic.

River ,'The Message'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Sep 28, 2010 5:40:43 pm PDT #26678 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Cincinnati Reds 2010 NL Central Champs!!! Come on postseason!!!

Walkoff home run no less! Sit down St. Louis!

There is joy in Mudville tonight.


Spidra Webster - Sep 28, 2010 6:08:20 pm PDT #26679 of 30001
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

Oh, quester. That brings back memories. My mom used to tell me "offer it up", too.

Today has been another day of not much accomplished. The Internet is mostly to blame.

I have to sit down and think through this week's Bay Area trip so I can remember anything I need to pack, charge, buy or otherwise prepare for.


Zenkitty - Sep 28, 2010 6:09:17 pm PDT #26680 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

You offer up your suffering to God in thanks for him sacrificing his son on the cross for our sins.

I don't get it. Suffering as a gift? How do you do that? However, "suck it up and shut up", I get.


quester - Sep 28, 2010 6:25:24 pm PDT #26681 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Catholic logic does not fit reality.

Basically, nothing we suffer can ever be as great as what Christ suffered. So, you think about how much he suffered and offer your suffering up to him as a thank you gift.


quester - Sep 28, 2010 6:27:53 pm PDT #26682 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

~ma to Jilli and Sox!


Strix - Sep 28, 2010 6:40:27 pm PDT #26683 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Right? When someone says "You're a better person than me." I want to ask them wtf they think they would do if mac was their child. Like what? they just wouldn't parent him.

Now I am horribly certain I have said this to msbelle, and if so, what I meant (and maybe many others) is a badly expressed "This seems so hard, and I have the dreadful certainty were I in your position, I wouldn't be dealing with the stress nearly as well. You are doing so well, so go team you! I suck at life!"

However, I am SURE I have said "You're a better person than me" to some person dealing with an awful SO or boss or parent, and what I meant was "Because I would have nutted them." (But usually I just say "Dude, I would have nutted them."


DavidS - Sep 28, 2010 6:40:54 pm PDT #26684 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't get it. Suffering as a gift? How do you do that?

Don't you remember the creamed corn on Twin Peaks? They ate your suffering in the Red Lodge.

Basically, nothing we suffer can ever be as great as what Christ suffered.

Ha! That's highly bullshit for the Catholic church considering some of the tortures they dreamed up for the Inquisition.


§ ita § - Sep 28, 2010 6:46:04 pm PDT #26685 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What Erin said with the nutting. And the desperate trying to find a way to resolve the situation with less me. Running away like a chickenshit and being avoidant is totally an option.

I am running away to my bed. Trying for more hours this time round. I can't keep crying in my car this week too.


Kat - Sep 28, 2010 6:49:55 pm PDT #26686 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

My mother used to drive me batshit with the old "offer it up" if anything went wrong.

HAHAHAHAH! I went to 12 years of Catholic school and one of my closest friends is an Irish Catholic librarian. We bandy about offer it up in a sarcastic way all the time.

Suffering as a gift?

Well gifts are meant as a hardship and a sufferance in some ways. Or at least as a sacrifice, something given, which implies that it's something that is a loss to the giver. I had a big revelation about this last Christmas. That the reason we celebrate Christmas with gifts is to acknowledge what Christians originally saw as the original gift and sacrifice.

I'm not explaining well. It made more sense 9 months ago and came about because of an NPR story on a children's choir.

Mostly if suffering and sacrifice weren't part of gifts then that O. Henry story wouldn't exist.


Kat - Sep 28, 2010 6:54:33 pm PDT #26687 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Running away like a chickenshit and being avoidant is totally an option.

Not in my situation. And most likely not in msbelle's either. And not really in yours either.

No one is superhuman. As sara point out, we all just get up each day and do the work of living.