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Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jul 22, 2010 11:39:02 am PDT #14082 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Wasn't the world awesome before modern medicine??


Aims - Jul 22, 2010 11:39:28 am PDT #14083 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I want my flying car and small pox scars!


Trudy Booth - Jul 22, 2010 11:39:43 am PDT #14084 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Those people? Are jerks. And they are becoming more and more numerous everyday within the culture of motherhood.

Or on the internets. I love the e-world, but its a highly effective megaphone for bullshit.


Trudy Booth - Jul 22, 2010 11:41:58 am PDT #14085 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

"I do not subscribe to this, but I know that some feel that … if a baby cannot make it through birth, it is not favored evolutionarily."

OK, she did say she didn't subscribe to this.

I mean, if she's lying, sure, go ahead and slug her. But don't just brain the messenger because you don't like the message.


javachik - Jul 22, 2010 11:43:24 am PDT #14086 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

The fact that she brings it up, though, means she thinks there's merit. There is NO other reason for her to even mention it, the sanctimonious wrong-headed, insensitive bitch. (In the context of her conversation with the mother.)


Steph L. - Jul 22, 2010 11:47:34 am PDT #14087 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

OK, she did say she didn't subscribe to this.

I had this reaction, too. Like, maybe she's horrifically tactless and monumentally stupid.

But obviously not everyone read it the same way.

I'm not defending her; regardless of whether she's being stupid and tactless or being sanctimonious, that's not something you say to an expectant mother who had a traumatic first birth.


Amy - Jul 22, 2010 11:48:22 am PDT #14088 of 30001
Because books.

I got that Bialik said she didn't subscribe to it -- I was reacting to whoever out there *does*, whom I didn't know existed until I read her quote.


Trudy Booth - Jul 22, 2010 11:50:08 am PDT #14089 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

The fact that she brings it up, though, means she thinks there's merit. There is NO other reason for her to even mention it, the sanctimonious wrong-headed, insensitive bitch. (In the context of her conversation with the mother.)

No it doesn't. The fact that she brings it up means that someone called and asked her about home birth stuff for an article. We don't even know who brought it up, really. It could have been the questioner.

Should she have pretended, upon being asked, that she'd simply never heard the question addressed?


Aims - Jul 22, 2010 11:50:09 am PDT #14090 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I was reacting to that and to her snide remark about, "I felt like a failure ... But it's not like I had a C-section."


Trudy Booth - Jul 22, 2010 11:52:29 am PDT #14091 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm not defending her; regardless of whether she's being stupid and tactless or being sanctimonious, that's not something you say to an expectant mother who had a traumatic first birth.

A mother who is a writer and is writing an article about it.

And, even if she's not writing an article at that point -- I'm considering a home birth I want to hear the whole unvarnished picture of yer home birth perspectives and experiences.