She's not just a blob of energy, she's also a 14-year-old hormone bomb.

Spike ,'The Killer In Me'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Amy - Jul 09, 2010 10:32:39 am PDT #11472 of 30001
Because books.

Dear Teenage Boys Who Think Axe Body Spray Is a Good Solution to a Sweaty Summer Day:

No. No, it isn't. You're very sweet, but you are entirely misguided and giving me asthma.

Helpfully,

The Wheezing Mom of At Least One of You


Kathy A - Jul 09, 2010 10:36:23 am PDT #11473 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I see kids right out of college expecting to either start in a managerial-level job or be promoted into one really quickly - like within six month.

Whereas I, who already has about ten years of varied library experience and will hopefully have my MLS in three years, am just hoping to work my way up to library director at a public library within ten years after getting my masters.


quester - Jul 09, 2010 10:44:05 am PDT #11474 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

And growled for more.

On growling babies: all three of the recent babies in my family have or are going through a growling phase. It happens around 7 or 8 mos. old. It was alarming with the now 2-year-old, but with the 7 and 8 month-olds it just seems routine now.

On unemployment: All I know is my own experience. After I was first laid off from the full-time job I'd had for 7 years, I was able to receive the maximum for a single person from Missouri. It was $338 a week as I recall.

I am currently unable to qualify for unemployment in Iowa because I haven't worked enough. Your unemployment is based on your salary from 2 to 3 quarters before you became unemployed. Because my temp work has been so spotty, I didn't make enough to qualify.

So, I personally, am not "enjoying' my unemployment.


Daisy Jane - Jul 09, 2010 10:54:27 am PDT #11475 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I guess I have mostly seen people go from admin to at best PMs, or research/data collecting to PM, but not much more. My designer friends have even more trouble because for every CD position there are bunches of really talented design and concept (and sometimes UX and IA) people for it, and that's if your company doesn't decide to hire a flashier name from outside the co.


bon bon - Jul 09, 2010 10:57:52 am PDT #11476 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

FWIW, Daisy, I remember seeing data that very few management-level jobs are filled by people who "worked their way up." I think I saw the study in the NYT but can't find it. It may happen, but expecting it to happen -- particularly if you're paying off, say, grad school -- is crazy.


P.M. Marc - Jul 09, 2010 10:58:07 am PDT #11477 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I guess I have mostly seen people go from admin to at best PMs, or research/data collecting to PM, but not much more.

I have never seen an admin move from admin to elsewhere. Sometimes contract workers get FTE jobs, but that's about the extent.

Of course, I am also not sure how people navigate upwards in a job, but that may be an introvert curse thing.


meara - Jul 09, 2010 11:14:21 am PDT #11478 of 30001

Yeah, that NYT guy turned down a job that's $11,000 a year more than I make, and I'm 37 and have two Master's degrees. (I mean, if making money was my heart's desire, I could have chosen a different profession, but seriously, let me wipe away my tears with my PLASTIC HAND).

Yeah, I was like "Seriously dude? You know that even if that isn't your dream job, it's often easier to get a job once you HAVE one...so get this one, prove you can do it, and then people will hire you! And you'll have INCOME...more than a lot of people in the US!"

That said, I'm not the best at moving upward or anything. But still.

On the unemployment thing--I've been on it a couple times, and it's based off what you made before--a percent of that, up to a cap, varying by the state you work in. So you DON"T make more on unemployment than you did at your previous job. You MIGHT make more on unemployment than you would at a job you are offered, if you were doing well before and the job you're offered is like, part time, or minimum wage.


erikaj - Jul 09, 2010 11:16:14 am PDT #11479 of 30001
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

Considering Obama and Rahm Emanuel are BFFs, (Which may frighten your co-worker and others for a whole host of, um, other reasons, not least my internal debate about adding another F,) Sophia, I think Israel-supportage is nsm an issue. I could be wrong.(I'm a fan...where else do I seem demure...think about it!) But he is not a Muslim. Kat, I learned a lot from the AP courses(government,iirc) wherein my test scores were none-too-fab...testing out was good though. Erin, yikes...mom-ma to you. was that it? I feel that this meara was sloppy in some way


Jesse - Jul 09, 2010 11:21:13 am PDT #11480 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

My first job after my BA was as a receptionist, I then became an admin asst, then a department asst, and up from there. I think it depends on the field. And I switched places a lot, which helped me move from low-level department staff to department head. (Now I'm more mid-level again, but in a much bigger place, so the money is the same.)


Jessica - Jul 09, 2010 11:23:07 am PDT #11481 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I've seen several people in my department come in as the admin and get promoted up - me, two of our sales team, and our research manager all started out in the same admin position and got promoted out of it.