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Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Daisy Jane - Jul 09, 2010 11:24:57 am PDT #11482 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I freely admit that the industry I work in tends to like "new blood" and flash names (for the industry), so people get stuck at the bottom/middle a lot.

I think everyone's individual experience colors the way they view other people's choices. I'm just saying I can see some circumstances that may have led to the kid turning down the job.

There's also an opportunity cost to taking something that is a poor fit. There was a job that was only nominally close to my area, not great pay, but not really worth it to basically work in what amounts, in my line, to an assembly line. I agonized over not taking it, because it was getting dire for us, and then shortly after I interviewed and got this job, and I am so happy here that I'm actually sad some days when it's the weekend or holiday, and I'm off.


Jesse - Jul 09, 2010 11:31:52 am PDT #11483 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I turned down the first job that was offered to me out of college, actually -- it was a highly-paid (relatively speaking) admin job, and I could tell that the other admins there were miserable but felt trapped because of the money. And I knew I didn't want to be an admin for my career.


Toddson - Jul 09, 2010 11:52:46 am PDT #11484 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

When I graduated from college within two months my parents were pushing me to get a job, any job. I was living at home and not paying rent, but I was also pretty much running the house (laundry, cleaning, dishes, etc.). And, at the time, almost any job for a woman would involve typing. I didn't do well in NYC, so I moved to DC and grabbed the first job I was offered. I soon came to hate it, was miserable - was fired - but moved on to better and better ones over the years.


flea - Jul 09, 2010 11:59:11 am PDT #11485 of 30001
information libertarian

I can see turning down a job that's a bad fit, in a general sense. When you've been unemployed for two years, though, to turn down a professional job, paying near the US median income, and you're 24? And you've never actually had a full-time job, ever, as far as we can tell?

I tempted for parts of my first year after college (and lived rent-free with my grandfather, which was good, 'cause paying rent would have been hard on what I was making), and twice got solid leads for full-time jobs from it - like, one of the people in the office would say, "are you looking for full-time work? Because my sister at Place X is looking for someone..." I was already planning on grad school at that point (okay, not the wisest idea ever as it turned out), but temping was certainly a good place to start out of college if I'd wanted to get into a variety of professions.


Daisy Jane - Jul 09, 2010 12:04:47 pm PDT #11486 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

It's not like he was unemployed and doing absolutely nothing though. Sometimes it's better to take odd jobs and keep looking for something acceptable, than to take anything and get stuck. Had I been at the 1st job, I wouldn't have gotten this interview and job.

Maybe he is an entitled dick who has no concept of what to expect from the real world, or maybe he's someone who is trying to make the best decision while he's got a safety net before he gets trapped by bad choices. I have no idea of knowing which it is.


Kathy A - Jul 09, 2010 12:09:09 pm PDT #11487 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Toddson is me, except for the cities and relocating. I finally got a job in August after graduating in May, quickly grew to hate it and got fired after a year, but through someone I knew at that job I got contacted by a headhunter for my next job.

When I applied to the blind ad for my first job at my current company back in 1992, I didn't know that my cousin was already working here as head of accounting. If I happen to mention that he's (now) the CFO to a coworker, they assume I started working here through him, but nope, got the job on my own.


SuziQ - Jul 09, 2010 12:10:38 pm PDT #11488 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I may not have worked my way to the top, but I started here as a temp doing data entry. Then I got a full time job in the accounting group and maxed out my growth there. Now I'm in a different group with more room for growth.


javachik - Jul 09, 2010 12:11:55 pm PDT #11489 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Maybe he is an entitled dick who has no concept of what to expect from the real world, or maybe he's someone who is trying to make the best decision while he's got a safety net before he gets trapped by bad choices. I have no idea of knowing which it is.

A good point.


Typo Boy - Jul 09, 2010 12:18:21 pm PDT #11490 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

The big thing is that the NY times is painting this as typical. And most people on unemployment do accept any remotely acceptable job. As to accepting the absolute first job. Well even Hil turned down at least one job. And she was right to do so.


Daisy Jane - Jul 09, 2010 12:19:39 pm PDT #11491 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I, on the other hand, am a complete dick who feels entitled to leave work 40 minutes early because everyone else is gone, and I've pretty much done all I can without people giving me stuff, and I'm kinda lonely and want to start my weekend!