Buffy: Where are the burgers? Riley: Yeah man, I'm starving. Cow me. Xander: I'd love to make with the moo but the fire's not cooperating.

'Lessons'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


erikaj - Jul 09, 2010 11:16:14 am PDT #11479 of 30001
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

Considering Obama and Rahm Emanuel are BFFs, (Which may frighten your co-worker and others for a whole host of, um, other reasons, not least my internal debate about adding another F,) Sophia, I think Israel-supportage is nsm an issue. I could be wrong.(I'm a fan...where else do I seem demure...think about it!) But he is not a Muslim. Kat, I learned a lot from the AP courses(government,iirc) wherein my test scores were none-too-fab...testing out was good though. Erin, yikes...mom-ma to you. was that it? I feel that this meara was sloppy in some way


Jesse - Jul 09, 2010 11:21:13 am PDT #11480 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

My first job after my BA was as a receptionist, I then became an admin asst, then a department asst, and up from there. I think it depends on the field. And I switched places a lot, which helped me move from low-level department staff to department head. (Now I'm more mid-level again, but in a much bigger place, so the money is the same.)


Jessica - Jul 09, 2010 11:23:07 am PDT #11481 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I've seen several people in my department come in as the admin and get promoted up - me, two of our sales team, and our research manager all started out in the same admin position and got promoted out of it.


Daisy Jane - Jul 09, 2010 11:24:57 am PDT #11482 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I freely admit that the industry I work in tends to like "new blood" and flash names (for the industry), so people get stuck at the bottom/middle a lot.

I think everyone's individual experience colors the way they view other people's choices. I'm just saying I can see some circumstances that may have led to the kid turning down the job.

There's also an opportunity cost to taking something that is a poor fit. There was a job that was only nominally close to my area, not great pay, but not really worth it to basically work in what amounts, in my line, to an assembly line. I agonized over not taking it, because it was getting dire for us, and then shortly after I interviewed and got this job, and I am so happy here that I'm actually sad some days when it's the weekend or holiday, and I'm off.


Jesse - Jul 09, 2010 11:31:52 am PDT #11483 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I turned down the first job that was offered to me out of college, actually -- it was a highly-paid (relatively speaking) admin job, and I could tell that the other admins there were miserable but felt trapped because of the money. And I knew I didn't want to be an admin for my career.


Toddson - Jul 09, 2010 11:52:46 am PDT #11484 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

When I graduated from college within two months my parents were pushing me to get a job, any job. I was living at home and not paying rent, but I was also pretty much running the house (laundry, cleaning, dishes, etc.). And, at the time, almost any job for a woman would involve typing. I didn't do well in NYC, so I moved to DC and grabbed the first job I was offered. I soon came to hate it, was miserable - was fired - but moved on to better and better ones over the years.


flea - Jul 09, 2010 11:59:11 am PDT #11485 of 30001
information libertarian

I can see turning down a job that's a bad fit, in a general sense. When you've been unemployed for two years, though, to turn down a professional job, paying near the US median income, and you're 24? And you've never actually had a full-time job, ever, as far as we can tell?

I tempted for parts of my first year after college (and lived rent-free with my grandfather, which was good, 'cause paying rent would have been hard on what I was making), and twice got solid leads for full-time jobs from it - like, one of the people in the office would say, "are you looking for full-time work? Because my sister at Place X is looking for someone..." I was already planning on grad school at that point (okay, not the wisest idea ever as it turned out), but temping was certainly a good place to start out of college if I'd wanted to get into a variety of professions.


Daisy Jane - Jul 09, 2010 12:04:47 pm PDT #11486 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

It's not like he was unemployed and doing absolutely nothing though. Sometimes it's better to take odd jobs and keep looking for something acceptable, than to take anything and get stuck. Had I been at the 1st job, I wouldn't have gotten this interview and job.

Maybe he is an entitled dick who has no concept of what to expect from the real world, or maybe he's someone who is trying to make the best decision while he's got a safety net before he gets trapped by bad choices. I have no idea of knowing which it is.


Kathy A - Jul 09, 2010 12:09:09 pm PDT #11487 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Toddson is me, except for the cities and relocating. I finally got a job in August after graduating in May, quickly grew to hate it and got fired after a year, but through someone I knew at that job I got contacted by a headhunter for my next job.

When I applied to the blind ad for my first job at my current company back in 1992, I didn't know that my cousin was already working here as head of accounting. If I happen to mention that he's (now) the CFO to a coworker, they assume I started working here through him, but nope, got the job on my own.


SuziQ - Jul 09, 2010 12:10:38 pm PDT #11488 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I may not have worked my way to the top, but I started here as a temp doing data entry. Then I got a full time job in the accounting group and maxed out my growth there. Now I'm in a different group with more room for growth.