This girl at school? She told me that gelatin is made from ground-up cow's feet and that every time you eat Jell-O there's some cow out there limping around without any feet. But I told her that I'm sure the cow is dead before they cut its feet off, right?

Dawn ,'Never Leave Me'


Natter 66: Get Your Kicks.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


javachik - Jul 09, 2010 9:48:58 am PDT #11463 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

flea, yep!

Hey foodies, I am having dinner with my friend Carol and a bunch of foodie friends when she comes out to visit from DC in late July. I was just looking at the other listed invitees for our dinner at Contigo and one of the guys runs this site: [link]

Thought it might interest ya.


Kathy A - Jul 09, 2010 9:50:45 am PDT #11464 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Huh--Rachel Maddow's high school yearbook pic.


Kat - Jul 09, 2010 9:54:33 am PDT #11465 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Or I could try this and explode! Damn, man.

Well, it means that with essentially a cup of beverage that she gets about 275 calories. The fact that I know that means I spend too much time with excel.

But it's nutritious and doesn't taste heavy. This blend has no avocado. Just coconut milk and other stuff.


javachik - Jul 09, 2010 10:07:44 am PDT #11466 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Kat, when does your Vitamax arrive??


DavidS - Jul 09, 2010 10:20:55 am PDT #11467 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Sometimes I think that modern (last 20 years) graduates think they're deserving to start mid-tier instead of entry level.

Well, they probably think that because through much of the 90s and the Oughties they could just step out of grad school and get a six figure job.

Personally I think there are some cracks in the cultural myths and ethos - a widening gap between the purported ethic and the way the economy has been working.

The notion of thrift and saving has been undermined. Credit is given cheaply instead of earned. The notion of valuing things and fixing them and keeping them over time has been made almost impossible by the market demands (i.e., it's cheaper to buy a new DVD player than fix a broken one). The work ethic has been undercut as employers squeeze productivity (more work for the same pay) and try to finesse job definitions to avoid paying overtime.

There's way more money to be made by manipulating the stock market until it crashes than there has been in creating useful goods. At least that's been the cycle of finance in the 80s (junk bonds), 90s (internet boom), and 00s (real estate bubble). And each time it's proclaimed a New Economy that isn't governed by the usual economic rules.

So there's a promoted myth economic virtues and then there's a contrary reality that's milked and exploited.


DavidS - Jul 09, 2010 10:23:44 am PDT #11468 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Awww, Geek Love Maximus.


Jesse - Jul 09, 2010 10:29:30 am PDT #11469 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Well, they probably think that because through much of the 90s and the Oughties they could just step out of grad school and get a six figure job.

Well, a few people in a few places could.

I have a friend who is still pissed off that she can't get a better job with her master's and very little relevant experience -- in a field where experience is everything. @@


§ ita § - Jul 09, 2010 10:29:47 am PDT #11470 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My head is going to explode!

I need to actually leave the building during work hours today. Even if I don't drink the damned smoothie. I just...I thought I'd gotten the document right.


Toddson - Jul 09, 2010 10:31:28 am PDT #11471 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I thought people would find that NYT article ... worth discussing. I see kids right out of college expecting to either start in a managerial-level job or be promoted into one really quickly - like within six month. That guy annoyed me because, as others have pointed out, he has a bachelor's degree, he's been living off his parents, he's sending out (if I remember correctly) five or six resumes a week, he's doing handyman type jobs ... and he turned down a professional level job because it wasn't what he wanted and it didn't pay enough.

Then I think of Hil, with an advanced degree, sending out that many resumes a day, interviewing all over, and being willing to be flexible about what she'll accept.


Amy - Jul 09, 2010 10:32:39 am PDT #11472 of 30001
Because books.

Dear Teenage Boys Who Think Axe Body Spray Is a Good Solution to a Sweaty Summer Day:

No. No, it isn't. You're very sweet, but you are entirely misguided and giving me asthma.

Helpfully,

The Wheezing Mom of At Least One of You