Giles: Stop that, you two. Riley: He started it... Xander: He called me a bad name! I think it was bad; it might have been Latin.

'Selfless'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - May 11, 2010 10:17:27 am PDT #28834 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

oops, double-post. I need to learn how to work a Mac.


sumi - May 11, 2010 10:17:35 am PDT #28835 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

I know - plus, I may be wrong, but I keep getting the feeling that BP just didn't plan for this eventuality. They seem so ill prepared to deal with this sort of failure.


Theodosia - May 11, 2010 10:17:45 am PDT #28836 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

And also, so very many of the Katrina "whiners" were old and/or poor and/or disabled and quite often all three -- the people who needed help the most and given very little.

I bet, just as a for-instance, that no one in Nashville was prevented, at gun point, from walking out to an unflooded area.


§ ita § - May 11, 2010 10:18:20 am PDT #28837 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Jesse, I totally think you're not being reasonable.


Dana - May 11, 2010 10:20:40 am PDT #28838 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I bet, just as a for-instance, that no one in Nashville was prevented, at gun point, from walking out to an unflooded area.

Or, you know, shot by the cops.


Gudanov - May 11, 2010 10:27:37 am PDT #28839 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

I know - plus, I may be wrong, but I keep getting the feeling that BP just didn't plan for this eventuality. They seem so ill prepared to deal with this sort of failure.

The plan was that the failsafe valve wouldn't fail. Really, it's hard to imagine being able to do much past that at that depth.


Theodosia - May 11, 2010 10:32:23 am PDT #28840 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Remember the controversy about VP Cheney meeting with oil execs to set US energy police, early in Bush II's first term? Evidently one of the policies they decided on was to skip on requiring a $.5m extra-safety valve for deep wells of this type.


Gudanov - May 11, 2010 10:35:38 am PDT #28841 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

I do get annoyed at the pundits who talk about the oil leak as "Obama's Katrina". The coast guard was there from the very beginning and really, what's the military going to do aside from put out oil booms and I get the impression that those were already getting put out? It's fair to criticize him for not making a public statement earlier though.


Gudanov - May 11, 2010 10:38:15 am PDT #28842 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

Evidently one of the policies they decided on was to skip on requiring a $.5m extra-safety valve for deep wells of this type.

From what I understand, and I might be wrong, it wouldn't have helped. It would be a back-up method of activating the blowout preventer that busted.


Sophia Brooks - May 11, 2010 10:46:18 am PDT #28843 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Speaking of smoking, I am listening to a thing about the new tobacco laws, and everyone seems SHOCKED that there is ammonia in cigarettes. I smoke Marlboro Lites, and I totally can smell the ammonia when I first open the pack. Also, cleaning with ammonia makes me want a cigarette.