Bunnies frighten me.

Anya ,'Help'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


javachik - Apr 26, 2010 8:47:18 pm PDT #25365 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

White privilege is thinking "what a scumbag" when another white person commits a crime without having to worrying what reflection and effect it will have upon other white people. Every single time a black person in Oakland (my town) commits a crime, I wince; it just allows people who harbor prejudices to keep their bullshit ideas going.


Strix - Apr 26, 2010 8:48:43 pm PDT #25366 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

(Is the "Oh but they're such nice kids! They just made a mistake!" available to all high school students? Hmm?)

Yes, you always need to turn the situation around and see how it's played. Does that shoe pinch if it's on the other foot, hmm? Then maybe, juuuussstt maybe, it ain't fair.


shrift - Apr 26, 2010 8:52:52 pm PDT #25367 of 30001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

That's not a bad idea, Burrell. I talked with her for a long time last night, and having an extra pair of non-judgmental hands for a weekend wouldn't hurt.

(And I don't think I've mentioned it here because it's early days yet, but I'm going to be an aunt again come December!)

If your mom's the type, a spa gift certificate?

Maybe a massage would help. I give her B&N gift certificates often because the women in my family do like to read, but she hasn't got much time for that lately. But having help with grandma may be the best thing I can give her right now.


Burrell - Apr 26, 2010 8:54:54 pm PDT #25368 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Oo, congratulations Auntie shrift!


Trudy Booth - Apr 26, 2010 9:07:21 pm PDT #25369 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm sure your mom would love to see you, Auntie Shrift. Then maybe you could chase her out the door for a massage (or have someone come to the house if that's stress-inducing in its own way).


Cass - Apr 26, 2010 9:10:40 pm PDT #25370 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

But having help with grandma may be the best thing I can give her right now.

It's an amazing gift to give. Any help or respite at all.

And congrats on more Aunt-ness.


Strix - Apr 26, 2010 9:35:32 pm PDT #25371 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Congrats, Auntie!


Calli - Apr 27, 2010 1:36:26 am PDT #25372 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I'm sure feeling free to get out and about for a weekend, or even an afternoon, would be appreciated, shrift. And congrats on the new auntness. Being an aunt is terrific.


Stephanie - Apr 27, 2010 3:10:06 am PDT #25373 of 30001
Trust my rage

Not surprisingly,I suppose, I agree with everything above regarding the AZ law and like bon bon, I don't think the law will be around very long. Besides the federal/state issue, which is huge, I'm not sure how you enforce a law without violating civil rights when the cop is supposed to just...decide who to ask without racial profiling.

But the one thing I always point out in this discussion s that immigration law is administrative, not criminal. Yes, there are some immigration crimes (meaning you can be charged criminally) but in those cases you a) can get a public defender and b) have full access to the Constitution. But those crimes are small in number and rarely prosecuted. They DON'T include being here without a visa or overstaying your visa. So are those people violating a law? Yes, but not a criminal one.

Of course, the real fiction here is calling removal, or deportation, an "administrative penalty". It upends someone's entire life and in many cases is worse than jail. But until we start providing non-citizens with an attorney to defend themselves, and a hearing in which they have full access to the Constitution, I hate hearing immigrants called criminals when the context is simply being here without a visa.


Jessica - Apr 27, 2010 3:48:57 am PDT #25374 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But the one thing I always point out in this discussion s that immigration law is administrative, not criminal. Yes, there are some immigration crimes (meaning you can be charged criminally) but in those cases you a) can get a public defender and b) have full access to the Constitution. But those crimes are small in number and rarely prosecuted. They DON'T include being here without a visa or overstaying your visa. So are those people violating a law? Yes, but not a criminal one.

Pfft. You and your facts.