I am not...I am not the damsel in distress. I am not some case. I have to work this. I've lived in a cave for 5 years in a world where they killed my kind like cattle. I am not going to be cut down by some monster flu. I am better than that. What a wonder...how very scared I am.

Fred ,'A Hole in the World'


Natter 65: Speed Limit Enforced by Aircraft  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, pandas, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Mar 04, 2010 9:03:27 am PST #13138 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think I've once been to a gay bar without a guy. I'm sure we were annoying to some, and we were treated like toys by others.

eta: I'm just sure most straight people have never been to a gay nightclub.


meara - Mar 04, 2010 9:10:21 am PST #13139 of 30001

I have been to a lesbian nightclub with ita, in fact!


Jesse - Mar 04, 2010 9:11:37 am PST #13140 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I went to a gay bar with a straight friend by accident once -- we had plans to meet at a place we hadn't been to in a while, and it had switched over in the meantime. It was pretty funny.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 04, 2010 9:11:39 am PST #13141 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Yeah, it doesn't seem that weird to me, but in High School and College, most of my friends were gay men (well, my age, but I felt weird saying gay boys)

Pretty shocking for the anti-gay rights person.


§ ita § - Mar 04, 2010 9:15:35 am PST #13142 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ooh--I should be clear--gay male club without a guy once. Never been to a lesbian nightclub without a lesbian.

In university we felt pretty enfranchised to wander the gay male world as we wished, like just the knowledge that 1/2 our male friends were gay would come with us like a visible marker. Pretty arrogant. Then again, the gay environment in Montreal was quite blended, so many bars were male/female gay. Not sure how straight we looked.

eta: reading rafmun now. Later I will torture myself with early BBaBB. I don't know why.


tommyrot - Mar 04, 2010 9:21:22 am PST #13143 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I have not been to a gay or lesbian bar in many many years. It feels weird, like I'm not getting my minimum RDA of gay people in my life or something....


Daisy Jane - Mar 04, 2010 9:21:40 am PST #13144 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

This reminds me of the conversation I have every time someone asks if The Grapevine is a gay bar. I say "Yes. It's also a lesbian bar, a straight bar, a working class bar, a professionals' bar, a black club, a sports bar and a dive bar."


tommyrot - Mar 04, 2010 9:22:45 am PST #13145 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

OTOH, The Manhole? Just a gay bar.


Nora Deirdre - Mar 04, 2010 9:23:10 am PST #13146 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Should I permit myself to get raised hopes about this??


Tom Scola - Mar 04, 2010 9:24:28 am PST #13147 of 30001
hwæt

Too late. They just changed the headline.