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Sophia Brooks - Mar 04, 2010 9:11:39 am PST #13141 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Yeah, it doesn't seem that weird to me, but in High School and College, most of my friends were gay men (well, my age, but I felt weird saying gay boys)

Pretty shocking for the anti-gay rights person.


§ ita § - Mar 04, 2010 9:15:35 am PST #13142 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ooh--I should be clear--gay male club without a guy once. Never been to a lesbian nightclub without a lesbian.

In university we felt pretty enfranchised to wander the gay male world as we wished, like just the knowledge that 1/2 our male friends were gay would come with us like a visible marker. Pretty arrogant. Then again, the gay environment in Montreal was quite blended, so many bars were male/female gay. Not sure how straight we looked.

eta: reading rafmun now. Later I will torture myself with early BBaBB. I don't know why.


tommyrot - Mar 04, 2010 9:21:22 am PST #13143 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I have not been to a gay or lesbian bar in many many years. It feels weird, like I'm not getting my minimum RDA of gay people in my life or something....


Daisy Jane - Mar 04, 2010 9:21:40 am PST #13144 of 30001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

This reminds me of the conversation I have every time someone asks if The Grapevine is a gay bar. I say "Yes. It's also a lesbian bar, a straight bar, a working class bar, a professionals' bar, a black club, a sports bar and a dive bar."


tommyrot - Mar 04, 2010 9:22:45 am PST #13145 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

OTOH, The Manhole? Just a gay bar.


Nora Deirdre - Mar 04, 2010 9:23:10 am PST #13146 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Should I permit myself to get raised hopes about this??


Tom Scola - Mar 04, 2010 9:24:28 am PST #13147 of 30001
hwæt

Too late. They just changed the headline.


Trudy Booth - Mar 04, 2010 9:25:08 am PST #13148 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

My weirdest gay club experience is that when I lived in south west Virginia in the late eighties there was only one gay club and it would have different nights for different groups. Monday would be older dudes, tuesday would be drag, wednesday would be lesbians, etc.

People would get REALLY dicky if the "wrong" group was drawing attention on a given night. Like, bitching, heckling, complaining-to-the-powers-that-be dicky. I was pretty amazed. My little 19 year old brain was like, "So, this is self-loathing."

It was the only gay club for MILES. People were regularly given bullshit traffic tickets when leaving the parking lot. There weren't police raids, but there was what seemed a continual awareness that they'd better be quiet as hell and never get caught screwing on the premises or they'd lose their liquor license. Patrons were definately not safe at other clubs in the area. In light of all of this I found the infighting particularly heartbreaking. You can't even have each other ? You're going to say sexist and homophobic things to each other ?


Steph L. - Mar 04, 2010 9:25:16 am PST #13149 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I have been to a lesbian nightclub with ita, in fact!

meara, we went to a lesbian bar (Bullfishes) when you were in Cincy, right? Although it was a weeknight and therefore sadly fairly empty.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 04, 2010 9:26:22 am PST #13150 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I just got a $50.00 American Express gift card as a thank you from my managers. Wow, I'm kinda stunned.