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Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

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DavidS - Nov 15, 2009 5:08:41 pm PST #584 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Basically, am I a terrible evil person or am I gullible and stupid?

Neither. But there were enough red flags that I wouldn't have extended an open invite. There's some place in between that would've worked better for you, I think.

Like, "I'm willing to help but not take on the brunt of the responsibility."

Because, frankly, these people read as if they'll exploit the situation. Not that they're necessarily malign or evil, but they've got that manipulativeness thing that I associate with addicts and certain other personality disorders. (People who take take take!)

eta: Basically they sound like a lot of people in Cash's extended family. She could give better advice at how to deal with the chronically You Owe Me Every Break (or, Save Me From Our Poor Choices) people


javachik - Nov 15, 2009 5:10:33 pm PST #585 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Wow. That's a toughie, Stephanie.


Pix - Nov 15, 2009 5:21:46 pm PST #586 of 30000
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Trust your gut, Stephanie. I think that those types of uneasy feelings are what's left of our natural instincts. We pick up on signals at a subconscious level that let us know when something is off, even when we can't put our finger on what. You are a good person who made an understandably generous offer, but I agree it feels wrong. I don't know what you can do at this point beyond making your boundaries very clear with these people (do you have other friends in the area you could at least alert to the situation, just in case?), but please take care of yourself and let us know how it goes.


brenda m - Nov 15, 2009 5:22:54 pm PST #587 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Yeah. The neediness (emotional, I mean) and inappropriate sharing started pretty much right away, right? It definitely sets off alarms for me, not necessarily in a danger sense, but I suspect shaking free of this entanglement may get tricky. I'd be extremely boundary conscious.


javachik - Nov 15, 2009 5:26:39 pm PST #588 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I'm with brenda and Pix.


Stephanie - Nov 15, 2009 5:30:29 pm PST #589 of 30000
Trust my rage

I am thinking they aren't coming tonight. He didn't call back and I explained that he needed to call before 8 because we all go to bed early. I wouldn't have any trouble telling them no wrt to money. With us buying the house this month, we have none anyway.

According to her, she saw us at the church block party and thought we looked like a nice family. On Friday, she mentioned this again telling me "and your daughter looked so cute in her green crocs.". See that seems creepy to me that she remembers my daughter's shoes.

Okay, I need tothink about something else... Pretty shoes, anyone? Pretty cabana boys? Pretty baseball players? Or cats?

Eta: Brenda, yes. Assuming it's true, I know way to much about her personal life. I don't knowany woman with fertility struggles who go into depth in a first conversation.


Cashmere - Nov 15, 2009 5:36:43 pm PST #590 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

eta: Basically they sound like a lot of people in Cash's extended family. She could give better advice at how to deal with the chronically You Owe Me Every Break (or, Save Me From Our Poor Choices) people

Ayup. The difference is that it's a lot harder to say no to family. I think I would trust your instincts, Stephanie. People who come on to near-strangers asking for some serious help (or dropping vague "we could really use some money" hints") should probably be avoided. Like David said, they might not have evil intentions but they could very well just be manipulative-user types.

I'm not as familiar with military culture--is this a couple you met from the base? I can imagine folks would be a little more willing to reach out if they felt part of a military family than total strangers.

If it were me, I wouldn't invite a total stranger (pregnant woman or not) to stay in my home with my kids. I'd offer to help out to some extent--rides, or something like that. But until you know them better, it strikes me as odd that someone would be expecting that kind of thing from strangers.


Stephanie - Nov 15, 2009 5:42:22 pm PST #591 of 30000
Trust my rage

We met them at church. We go to this Wednesday night dinner before Ellie's choir and they were there. The thing about tonight was that she was supposedlyin the hospital with preterm labor and had a seizure. Her boyfriend works at night and according to him, they don't know anyone else. So while I would never invite her over, he framed his request as her spending the night alone and possibly seizing again v. sleeping here. It's so overreaching but I just couldn't see myself saying no, if it were true. But now they have our address, although we are in the phonebook.

You know, if we had decent healthcare this probably would not have happened. I can't believe, if it's true, that the hospital sent home a woman with preterm labor and seizures.


Cashmere - Nov 15, 2009 5:50:32 pm PST #592 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

You know, if they're members of the church, I would suggest talking to someone there. My sister's community church is VERY good about providing assistance to members. You could always call the church and ask their office or outreach service to call the couple and offer assistance.

It would also be a good way of "vetting" the people, per se or finding out if they're on the up and up.


Polter-Cow - Nov 15, 2009 5:52:52 pm PST #593 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

the brief stop was like a fun little holiday into a land of awesome toys and graphic novels and craziness (one wall is crooked and the kitchen looks like an abandoned Escher sketch! there's a real honest-to-God attic with a ladder that pulls down from the ceiling, and musty-smelling warm air with dust motes dancing in the light from the single window, and bare roof beams, and mysterious boxes!). She was quite thoroughly charmed and charming.

Wow, my apartment has never seemed so interesting. Everybody come visit!

Anyhow, the car is now clean and Uncle Neil can ride around in it anytime he wants.

Yay!