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Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


amyth - Aug 23, 2010 11:51:56 am PDT #29671 of 30000
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

My mother was born in 1928, and we never once talked about sex. I literally first learned about it in Catholic school.

This is so blowing my mind.


Aims - Aug 23, 2010 11:52:30 am PDT #29672 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Actually, Steph, you are totally right.

He *is* totally Miracleman.


Laga - Aug 23, 2010 11:52:33 am PDT #29673 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

My mom asked me once what a glory hole was.

I tried to tell her it was used in glassmaking but she knew it was something dirty.


Aims - Aug 23, 2010 11:53:37 am PDT #29674 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

My mom once told me, "When you first start having sex with someone new, take a shower with them, and inspect their genitals for open sores or other signs of STD'. It's not foolproof, but it can give you a good indication. And here - have a ginormous box of condoms."


amyth - Aug 23, 2010 11:53:43 am PDT #29675 of 30000
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Laga: Nice try, though.


Daisy Jane - Aug 23, 2010 11:54:12 am PDT #29676 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

My mom asked me during the famous Eddie Murphy SNL sketch, what exactly a 'ho is.


tommyrot - Aug 23, 2010 11:54:27 am PDT #29677 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

"When you first start having sex with someone new, take a shower with them, and inspect their genitals for open sores or other signs of STD'. It's not foolproof, but it can give you a good indication. And here - have a ginormous box of condoms."

Does anyone ever do that?


beekaytee - Aug 23, 2010 11:55:28 am PDT #29678 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

JZ, what you said about the emotional buck stopping here and the courage it takes was so beautiful, I wish it had come out of my mouth. So true.

Steph, thanks for asking the follow up question. I wish I had one of those football move screens where I could draw arrows and underline strategies. But first, I want to highlight that you answered your own question.

I know this, because I lived it. People ask intrusive questions because it works. If it stops working, they stop showing up in the same way.

Back in the day when I felt physical discomfort from walking out of a store without purchasing something (because I was not worthy to live and/or breathe their air and I had to suffer for everything I wanted...ugh), I would phrase things from my VICTIM: INQUIRE WITHIN mindset to the degree that people really couldn't let me off the hook. I'm glad they didn't because the pain of that became great enough that I was forced to make a change.

The blessing is, now no one who knows me asks me arsed questions like that and people who don't don't end up enjoying it when they do.

Start here: Silence is your friend. Just because a question is asked, does not mean an answer is required.

If someone asked, "Really? What?" to "I have an obligation." I would a) close my mouth, take a quiet breath and simply gaze on them sympathetically. If the individual was one of the unconscious majority and persisted, I would say,"An obligation that makes your request impossible," and walk away or change the subject.

I reject, out of hand, the notion of lying or making stuff up. This is not to say it never happens in my world, but as a reformed (fully recovered, thank GOD) liar-of-convenience, I would much rather be clean and remove all opportunities for push-back.

Focusing on your feelings is the very best way to avoid getting caught up in verbosity for the sake of protection.

I have particular loathing for 'Well! That's YOUR opinion' in the jackass arsenal, but I don't take it personally, nor will I allow it to undermine me. "Of course it is my opinion, it came out of my mouth!"

Try that one of your favorite 'Devil's Advocate' sometime, followed by calm silence. The facial contortions can be very entertaining.


Daisy Jane - Aug 23, 2010 11:56:22 am PDT #29679 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

No, more often than not, before I got married, when I first started having sex with someone was also when I was about to stop having sex with them. (Why yes, I was a 'ho).


§ ita § - Aug 23, 2010 11:56:23 am PDT #29680 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I literally first learned about it in Catholic school.

My mother gave me the birds and the bees talk (except it was totally clinical and had no euphemism or happy nerve endings) when I was seven and my sister was four. Never mentioned it again. I was good, and went on to do my own extensive research at that point, plus I managed to get the speeches in every one of my subsequent schools.

My sister? *Never* got the speech in school, and totally forgot what my mother had told us when she was wee.

Ten years ago, my mother asked me what Tantric sex was.

Mother! I've known since I was ten! Because of the book IN YOUR LIBRARY.

I totally don't understand her.

But I explained it as best I could.