Plus bonus points for use of the word 'mosey'.

Oz ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

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billytea - Aug 16, 2010 4:50:17 pm PDT #28789 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is a hotly contested subject.

True, and I have no idea what it's supposed to mean; but the point is simply that, per the text, it is possible to lose salvation.

Failing to develop talents or help the needy is something Christ condemned in the Gospels, but it's also still addressable (it can be repented of and atoned for) and therefore wouldn't mean the death sentence for one's soul.

Two points:

1. While I have no issue with this position, it's contradicted by the text. The sheep in that passage, the ones who enter paradise, are not the people who repented; they're the people who actually acted compassionately in the first place.

2. With respect to the conversation at hand, this position doesn't differ at all from the position of the Catholic Church, nor does it contradict the notion that one can lose salvation - it just says that one can find it again.


askye - Aug 16, 2010 4:52:05 pm PDT #28790 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

Also I'm not sure what to make of this so I need some Buffistas opinions.

His other argument is that this is the same as if a sushi restaurant opened right next to Pearl Harbor, it would be a provocation and disrespectful and should not be allowed.


meara - Aug 16, 2010 4:55:00 pm PDT #28791 of 30000

Bwahaha!! Does he know how many sushi restaurants there are in Hawaii?!?!


amyth - Aug 16, 2010 4:56:19 pm PDT #28792 of 30000
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

meara, I was going to SAY!


sarameg - Aug 16, 2010 4:56:30 pm PDT #28793 of 30000

t not really here I'd be pretty shocked if there ISN'T a sushi place in or at the Pearl Harbor memorial. Hawaii has a HUGE ethnic japanese community. Has had long before Pearl Harbor was a historical event. In the 20s, they were almost half the population. t /not really here


askye - Aug 16, 2010 4:56:36 pm PDT #28794 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

It's okay for Sushi restaurants to be in hawaii, they just couldn't be 4 blocks from Pearl Harbor.


sarameg - Aug 16, 2010 4:57:52 pm PDT #28795 of 30000

Tell the moron to google Pearl Harbor sushi.


Dana - Aug 16, 2010 4:59:18 pm PDT #28796 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

What about five blocks from Pearl Harbor?


Hil R. - Aug 16, 2010 5:01:50 pm PDT #28797 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Elsie Dinsmore uses the passage "Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone," to justify the position that grace is time-limited -- if you don't accept Jesus within a certain time frame, then he won't have you anymore. (OK, I don't really have anything useful to add to this conversation, but I'd never seen that interpretation anywhere else, and I asked a few Christian friends, who said they'd never heard it, either.)

His other argument is that this is the same as if a sushi restaurant opened right next to Pearl Harbor, it would be a provocation and disrespectful and should not be allowed.

That one actually kind of makes sense as an analogy, but I don't see why it shouldn't be allowed. It's not like a sushi restaurant is an arm of the WWII-era Japanese government.


askye - Aug 16, 2010 5:03:08 pm PDT #28798 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

Dana, Five blocks would be great, do you have an address?