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Dana - Aug 16, 2010 4:59:18 pm PDT #28796 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

What about five blocks from Pearl Harbor?


Hil R. - Aug 16, 2010 5:01:50 pm PDT #28797 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Elsie Dinsmore uses the passage "Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone," to justify the position that grace is time-limited -- if you don't accept Jesus within a certain time frame, then he won't have you anymore. (OK, I don't really have anything useful to add to this conversation, but I'd never seen that interpretation anywhere else, and I asked a few Christian friends, who said they'd never heard it, either.)

His other argument is that this is the same as if a sushi restaurant opened right next to Pearl Harbor, it would be a provocation and disrespectful and should not be allowed.

That one actually kind of makes sense as an analogy, but I don't see why it shouldn't be allowed. It's not like a sushi restaurant is an arm of the WWII-era Japanese government.


askye - Aug 16, 2010 5:03:08 pm PDT #28798 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

Dana, Five blocks would be great, do you have an address?


Dana - Aug 16, 2010 5:04:05 pm PDT #28799 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Ha, no, it was rhetorical. But I'm tempted to google now.

Here, enter this in the Google Maps search box. "sushi loc: Pearl Harbour, HI"


sarameg - Aug 16, 2010 5:05:05 pm PDT #28800 of 30000

The Pacific Aviation Museum there doesn't have sushi on the menu, but teriaki beef and asian stir fry! Horrors! [link]

I'd be surprised if you couldn't get sushi in the AFB mess hall. Hell, you could get it at Ft. Hood...

ANYWAY. PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET ARE WRONG.


askye - Aug 16, 2010 5:05:50 pm PDT #28801 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

The argument goes something like - sure it's legal but it's disrespectful so it shouldn't be allowed.

Not legally blocked, just the people building the mosque/sushi restaurant shouldn't do it because it's in bad taste and so why it shouldn't be against the law it should be heavily discouraged from happening.


billytea - Aug 16, 2010 5:07:28 pm PDT #28802 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

That one actually kind of makes sense as an analogy, but I don't see why it shouldn't be allowed. It's not like a sushi restaurant is an arm of the WWII-era Japanese government.

I think it's a decent analogy, and given the fact that there's absolutely nothing wrong with being able to buy sushi at Pearl Harbour, just highlights for me the baffling nature of arguments against this mosque.

Now I want to know if there's a sushi restaruant at the Pentagon.


Hil R. - Aug 16, 2010 5:08:49 pm PDT #28803 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Now I want to know if there's a sushi restaruant at the Pentagon.

There's one at the Pentagon City mall. Also a middle eastern restaurant. I've never been to the actual Pentagon.


askye - Aug 16, 2010 5:12:11 pm PDT #28804 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

If it was there before 9/11 it's okay, according to this person.

If it's being built after then it becomes suspect and disrespectful.

I asked if a mile to the Arizona Memorial is too close for sushi.


beth b - Aug 16, 2010 5:18:12 pm PDT #28805 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I pointed out that this doesn't track because in his scenario the person who killed my cat also moves next door.

In this case -- wasn't there one already there - since 1970?

and by the other - there should be no italian food ( If Columbus is the start ) near a reservation?

I find a lot of this very silly. One of my neighbor families is Vietnamese. Now they did flee on a boat because Dad was on the wrong side. Dad has been back his two sons live in Vietnam I se moving on a progress there . And I know some rather narrow minded guys that fought in Vietnam -- and have gone back to Vietnam and found it healing. Running away or putting your head in the sand doesn't make things go away. Drawing lines on the world? Sometimes feels like two kids sharing a room. Eventually one of them is going to put a big toe over the line