I gave her everything... jewels, beautiful dresses -- with beautiful girls in them.

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Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


beth b - Dec 09, 2009 1:14:08 pm PST #2843 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

How odd. I do celebrate it, bu without any religious meaning for me. However- I can't really divorce it from christianity . I keep saying I am going to switch to a solstice celebration ( the end of short dark days is worth celebrating), but I haven't because it is easier to keep things on the day everyone has off.


Vortex - Dec 09, 2009 1:15:49 pm PST #2844 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

therefore there's no reason why I shouldn't celebrate it.

how about you don't want to? Or that regardless of how it's "culturally american", it's based in Christianity. Or he's a jackhole and should shut the fuck up before you shove a candy cane through his piehole?


Polter-Cow - Dec 09, 2009 1:16:34 pm PST #2845 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It's hard to declare a holiday not religious when it's 67% Christ.


tommyrot - Dec 09, 2009 1:17:20 pm PST #2846 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

It's hard to declare a holiday not religious when it's 67% Christ.

Plus the other 33% is a Mass... for Christ.


Daisy Jane - Dec 09, 2009 1:18:15 pm PST #2847 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

You can say it has no religious meaning for you, but you can see that Christmas is Christian, right? I mean, it's right there in the name.


Hil R. - Dec 09, 2009 1:19:51 pm PST #2848 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Over the past several years, I've had essentially this same conversation with at least three different people. One of them grew up in Japan, so he's coming at this from a totally different perspective, but the others were people who grew up in the US.


Hil R. - Dec 09, 2009 1:19:52 pm PST #2849 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

brenda m - Dec 09, 2009 1:21:13 pm PST #2850 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

That's insane.

I wonder if this is how the fundies feel around Halloween?

No, they're still craxy.


Hil R. - Dec 09, 2009 1:21:24 pm PST #2851 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

It's sometimes fun to point out to these people that "Christmas is a secular American holiday" is exactly the same argument that Bill O'Reilly uses constantly.


-t - Dec 09, 2009 1:38:53 pm PST #2852 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Even if you accept that Christmas is a secular American cultural holiday - how does he want you to celebrate it? Everybody has different traditions, there's no one thing that everybody does.