'Unleashed'
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therefore there's no reason why I shouldn't celebrate it.
how about you don't want to? Or that regardless of how it's "culturally american", it's based in Christianity. Or he's a jackhole and should shut the fuck up before you shove a candy cane through his piehole?
It's hard to declare a holiday not religious when it's 67% Christ.
It's hard to declare a holiday not religious when it's 67% Christ.
Plus the other 33% is a Mass... for Christ.
You can say it has no religious meaning for you, but you can see that Christmas is Christian, right? I mean, it's right there in the name.
Over the past several years, I've had essentially this same conversation with at least three different people. One of them grew up in Japan, so he's coming at this from a totally different perspective, but the others were people who grew up in the US.
That's insane.
I wonder if this is how the fundies feel around Halloween?
No, they're still craxy.
It's sometimes fun to point out to these people that "Christmas is a secular American holiday" is exactly the same argument that Bill O'Reilly uses constantly.
Even if you accept that Christmas is a secular American cultural holiday - how does he want you to celebrate it? Everybody has different traditions, there's no one thing that everybody does.
I vaguely remember a conversation somewhere or other (was it here? I'm not sure) a year or two ago, when Slate published an article about which Christmas specials are OK to watch in Jewish homes, based on a survey of about five Jewish people about what they watched when they were kids. The list was pretty much the things that I always watched, and one of them was How the Grinch Stole Christmas. Every time I talked to a Jewish person about this article, the immediate response to that mention was a halfway sarcastic, "Well, of course. Clearly the Grinch is Jewish." And we all thought that was funny. But then when I tried that same joke in a mixed group, the reaction from all the Christmas-celebrating people was "Of course the Grinch isn't Jewish! What a horribly antisemitic thing to say!"