Police procedure has changed since I was little.

Wash ,'The Message'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


billytea - Jul 16, 2010 5:36:35 pm PDT #25825 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

In short what I don't think has every been tried is true decriminalization, where prostitutes have the same rights as any other worker, plus protection from exploitation unique to their field just as railroad workers have special worker protections from hazards unique to their field.

I don't think Victoria reaches that standard - not in theory, and certainly not in practice - but I thought I'd note that prostitution is legal and regulated here, and we have a brothel listed on the stock exchange.

(There are many brothels operating unlicenced too, and legal protection there is obviously going to be meagre.)

It has struck me many times that even though our group of friends back in Michigan were fairly "porny" people, with pretty open minds, the Buffistas have still opened us all up to new ideas, new possibilities, and new levels of porn.

So true. I was always a very strait-laced, nerdy kid, and as an adult pretty much too. I nonetheless astounded my younger brother (this is the one with multiple tats, who went through a period of dating multiple women in multiple cities, and who was constantily finding ways to get himself into a state of intoxication/trouble/the casualty ward) when he discovered that I knew of bukkake years before he'd ever heard of it.


Typo Boy - Jul 16, 2010 6:22:21 pm PDT #25826 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Right, but as you say not with much protection for their rights as workers. Tons of authority to the brothels. (Where prostitution is legal, in most cases it ends up that way - giving authority to brothel owners to keep prostitutes under control. Alternatively you have cases like the UK where the law goes to such extremes to protect prostitutes from pimps that almost any reasonable action they can take to protect themselves is outlawed. Hmm and I just remembered my facts on UK law are from 80's. Possibly the law in the UK has advanced in 30 years.)

Ultimately I'm pretty wobbley. That is I think in the abstract maybe prostitution can be OK. But in practice there is no place on earth where it is not horrible for a majority of prostitutes. And making it illegal does not seem to make it any better. But implication from empirical results seem to be the best approach to prostitution would be "safe, legal and rare". With resources put into all three aspects.

But again tied to larger issues. Any nation that engages is immigrant bashing is going to have a vulnerable class that can be pushed into prostitution. Any nation that takes a highly punitive approach to drug use is going have a second vulnerable population.

And any nation that does not guarantee a certain level of economic security again ends up with desperately poor people who sell themselves for survival.

And yet, I don't know. Make prostitution truly decriminalized. Guarantee everyone who wants one a job at a living wage. Have a reasonably open immigration policy. Decriminalize all or most drugs. I don't know if you would either drastically reduce prostitution, or turn it magically into a awesome experience for most prostitutes. I suspect that what I've just outlined would be "least bad" rather than good.


Pix - Jul 16, 2010 9:32:42 pm PDT #25827 of 30000
The status is NOT quo.

I would rather go to the movie nights at Hollywood Forever. And I want to go to those a lot.

t looks frantically for teleporter

Sigh.


Pix - Jul 16, 2010 10:31:21 pm PDT #25828 of 30000
The status is NOT quo.

Wow, thread is dead. Long live the thread.

I will take this long silence to say that I hate packing. I like traveling, but packing is of the devil. One of the times when my ADD rears its ugly head in a really maddening way, which is why I dread it so much. Good thing we aren't leaving until tomorrow afternoon and we're just driving a couple of hours away. Makes it much more doable to get my ass in gear in the morning.


erin_obscure - Jul 17, 2010 12:00:45 am PDT #25829 of 30000
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

??squirting porn??


NoiseDesign - Jul 17, 2010 12:01:53 am PDT #25830 of 30000
Our wings are not tired

Yes, it's on the same shelf as the Fresca Porn.


erin_obscure - Jul 17, 2010 12:02:38 am PDT #25831 of 30000
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

Well, i do like the tangy sweet flavour of Squirt...


Sean K - Jul 17, 2010 12:06:57 am PDT #25832 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

You're gonna break me if you keep saying stuff like that, erin.


erin_obscure - Jul 17, 2010 2:10:15 am PDT #25833 of 30000
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

you might be suprised to find out that our work filter prevents me from googling "squirting porn". i assume it has something to do w/ female ejaculation?


Laura - Jul 17, 2010 4:17:14 am PDT #25834 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

My brain filter kept me from the googling, but I figured the same thing, erin. Gotta agree with you on the Squirt too. Tasty.

Chores today. I need to get out on my roof and reseal the hole where my chimney used to be. I may well get a new chimney this year, but the contractor is super busy in the summer and I'm getting tired of the rain coming in.

Also on the list is helping my sister assemble a new outdoor table. She had a lovely old one with a glass top but winter did it in. She was moving it and just tapped the top in the way sub-freezing temps and it shattered to a zillion pieces.

Laundry already in progress. Considering I didn't do crap the last couple days I am feeling ambitious.

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