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Cordelia ,'End of Days'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Strix - Jul 16, 2010 5:35:42 am PDT #25711 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Ugh, that is awful, DJ! How coldheartedly practical. Can't some of the money be used to help out the women? I understand that the DNA could be used to catch a predator, so I cautiously agree with it, but the implications make me hugely uncomfortable and sad.


Daisy Jane - Jul 16, 2010 5:46:18 am PDT #25712 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

The article says that basically it's just swabbing them when arrested and creating a database. I can't imagine that comes anywhere near the cost it would take for some real reforms.

Mostly it's aimed at giving these women and girls a name and a face instead of just random Jane Doe in a morgue.


Strix - Jul 16, 2010 5:47:40 am PDT #25713 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Are other people who commit crimes swabbed? It seems that would be the way to go, too.


Daisy Jane - Jul 16, 2010 5:51:34 am PDT #25714 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

It's more about treating them as victims than people who commit crimes.

It's a pretty good post.


Vortex - Jul 16, 2010 6:18:21 am PDT #25715 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

So, my friend got married the other day (ceremony Wed, big reception in August, which I am going to). I sent some flowers for the day. From the Fed Ex delivery receipt, I know that they were delivered when they were at the wedding, and Fed Ex left them there. I haven't heard from my friend about it, should I ask? I know that I hate it when I mean to do something like say thank you and I get prodded.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jul 16, 2010 6:21:14 am PDT #25716 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

While I can see how that might reduce crime against prostitutes in the long-term, it also seems to be focused on the woman rather than the person assaulting her. Not sure what the answer to that is, though.

The routine-ness of sexual violence against sex workers is dreadful. In this country more than half of female sex workers have been raped and 75% physically assaulted by clients/pimps. It's horrific.

ETA: Vortex - hmm, tricky. I'm never sure what to do in that situation.


Daisy Jane - Jul 16, 2010 6:22:15 am PDT #25717 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I would give it a bit. It was about a week or so later before I was able to get out thank yous after my wedding.


Vortex - Jul 16, 2010 6:29:57 am PDT #25718 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Yeah, I was thinking that. I'm just concerned because they left the flowers.


brenda m - Jul 16, 2010 6:31:56 am PDT #25719 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Left them at the wedding, or left them at their house during the wedding?


Trudy Booth - Jul 16, 2010 6:35:53 am PDT #25720 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

My sister spent several months sending out thank yous after her wedding. People started sending her gifts from the time they announced until well after. A gift arriving the day of is in the cue but not at the top of it.

Oh, there is a world of difference between theorhetical prostitution (which we were pretty clearly discussing) and actual prostitution (which almost always, it seems, involves some aspect of coercion). One of the reasons coercion is so effective is the immense SHAME connected with sex work. I'm not going to claim that a blithe discussion of prostitution is going to solve the worlds ills, but neither can I see that (particularly in this context) it would do any harm.