And what's the fun in becoming an immortal demon if you're not regular, am I right?

The Mayor ,'End of Days'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Pix - Jul 15, 2010 1:27:20 pm PDT #25638 of 30000
The status is NOT quo.

I totally have an evil bisexual agenda.


Steph L. - Jul 15, 2010 1:28:07 pm PDT #25639 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I totally have an evil bisexual agenda.

I would like an evil bisexual. Where do I order one?


Zenkitty - Jul 15, 2010 1:28:54 pm PDT #25640 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I would like an evil bisexual. Where do I order one?

::raises hand:

Could you define "evil" in this context, please, ma'am?


tommyrot - Jul 15, 2010 1:29:40 pm PDT #25641 of 30000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I would like an evil bisexual. Where do I order one?

(Keep in mind they don't exist.)


smonster - Jul 15, 2010 1:31:16 pm PDT #25642 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Don't forget that all bisexuals are SEX-CRAZY.

Steph, you so would.

I have also considered burlesque. And if you want to talk complicated, how about the bellydance/stripping connection/distinction as perceived/enacted both by the performers and the audiences. Hahaha omg headache.


Steph L. - Jul 15, 2010 1:33:23 pm PDT #25643 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Could you define "evil" in this context, please, ma'am?

Less Angelus, more Ripper.


DavidS - Jul 15, 2010 1:36:15 pm PDT #25644 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Let me share a dirty little secret: I'm not all that fond of watching other people (live or in porn) get their kink on.

Hey! I totally want that DVD of The Black Glove back then. (kidding)

Though that DVD is especially interesting in that the female sub is the director. So the element of control and male-gaze takes on several other layers of intrigue. Also, female dommes with business suits over corsets are pretty hot.


Burrell - Jul 15, 2010 1:36:47 pm PDT #25645 of 30000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Hah. But see, even if you're a lesbian, are you a FEMME lesbian? Well, clearly you've still bought into the patriarchal notion of how you're supposed to look. You just want to PASS! And if you're BUTCH, well--that's just because you are GLORIFYING MASCULINITY, which does not DESERVE to be GLORIFIED! EVIL!!

And don't forget, if you transition to male, it's because you want male privilege! So you are betraying your lesbian compatriots.

And if you're a bisexual woman, you are stealing lesbian energy and giving it to men. Also, you shouldn't go to queer women's events because you endanger lesbians (I don't remember what the argument was for that one).

But if you transition to female, you're co-opting our experience.

So um... if I am parsing this right... if you are a feminist and a woman and a sexual being, chances are UR DOING IT WRONG.


§ ita § - Jul 15, 2010 1:38:04 pm PDT #25646 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hello. Bisexuality doesn't exist. Story over.


smonster - Jul 15, 2010 1:38:04 pm PDT #25647 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Just a taste - it involves patriarchy, imperialism, attitudes towards sex and sensual movement in a variety of countries and cultures, feminism, homophobia and gender roles, cultural appropriation, "othering," a long history of dance and sex work overlapping, performers blurring the boundaries consciously and un-... yeah.