No kids, no animals, no rape, no eyeballs, no poop.

Rape fantasies, I get, in theory, but I would uncomfortable with watching it, unless I really, really got the feeling they were thoughtful. Hardcore BDSM, too, and I think with so much of it, you never know what the context it. I can READ hardcore BDSM erotica, but it's (a) fictional and (b) the character's POV is generally given, and the stuff (like Joey Hill) I have read tends to be very contextual. I'm thinking more print porn, than video. With a movie, you can tell more, I think, about context. Of which there is often NSM.

People can like poo, but I don wanna see it.

Voyeurism, I cam more conflicted on. I would totally look if I caught an upskirt on the streets, or if a neighbor was walking around naked in front of a window. I would even check the window out occasionally, or bring it to my husband's attention. LOOK, NAKED NEIGHBORS! I would take pictures, though. Cameras in bathrooms, or sticking things up people's skirts is repellent to me.

ETA: would NOT take pictures. Oops.

Hardcore BDSM, too, and I think with so much of it, you never know what the context it.

Let me share a dirty little secret: I'm not all that fond of watching other people (live or in porn) get their kink on.

Andrea Dworkin. Which is not, actually, what Dworkin said, but it always gets attributed to her.

I was just coming back to post Andrea Dworkin! Cause I went and asked my co-worker. What did she really say? I'm very interested cause I took great exception to that.

I grok a lot of softer BDSM stuff, Tep, and even enjoy it personally, but there is a point at which my mind says "I cannot fathom that there is pleasure in this" in hardcore print/video/movies.

Erotica, I can go a lot further, if it is consensual.

Joe and I had a funny conversation the other day about who was the "top" in our relationship. We decided we couldn't agree and should not discuss it anymore.

I grok a lot of softer BDSM stuff, Tep, and even enjoy it personally, but there is a point at which my mind says "I cannot fathom that there is pleasure in this" in hardcore print/video/movies.

Oh, I'm right there with you. But I figure as long as people are consenting, and I don't have to see it, then if they're into toy boats (or whatever), then right on for them.

Andrea Dworkin. Which is not, actually, what Dworkin said, but it always gets attributed to her.

I was just coming back to post Andrea Dworkin! Cause I went and asked my co-worker. What did she really say? I'm very interested cause I took great exception to that.

Wikipedia actually seems to have the right info: [link]

Ha! Tep beat me to the same wiki cite.

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Awesome, thanks Steph. And amych (STILL NOT WORKING!)

Same co-worker told me about a panel she got to attend at the University of Michigan on prostitution with Dworkin, MacKinnon, and several actual prostitutes/call girls. She said it was the most awesome discussion she ever got to see.

the women made most of the decisions as to how to dance, what songs, what outfits, hours, etc

There are clubs that don't run that way?

There are clubs that don't run that way?

No idea, but I think the general idea of strip clubs is the slimy owner making girls work to pay back their stage time and being generally gross. Like she said, one club does not make a study, and I'm sure there are clubs out there that are really gross, but she said this one wasn't.

She also said that the number of college students in there was no urban myth. Most of the girls she worked with were enrolled in day classes.