Hardcore BDSM, too, and I think with so much of it, you never know what the context it.
Let me share a dirty little secret: I'm not all that fond of watching other people (live or in porn) get their kink on.
I'm going to see to Wesley, see if he's still whimpering.
Giles ,'Chosen'
Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
Steph L. - Jul 15, 2010 11:01:27 am PDT #25597 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
Aims - Jul 15, 2010 11:05:47 am PDT #25598 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Andrea Dworkin. Which is not, actually, what Dworkin said, but it always gets attributed to her.
I was just coming back to post Andrea Dworkin! Cause I went and asked my co-worker. What did she really say? I'm very interested cause I took great exception to that.
Strix - Jul 15, 2010 11:06:23 am PDT #25599 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
I grok a lot of softer BDSM stuff, Tep, and even enjoy it personally, but there is a point at which my mind says "I cannot fathom that there is pleasure in this" in hardcore print/video/movies.
Erotica, I can go a lot further, if it is consensual.
Aims - Jul 15, 2010 11:09:03 am PDT #25600 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Joe and I had a funny conversation the other day about who was the "top" in our relationship. We decided we couldn't agree and should not discuss it anymore.
Steph L. - Jul 15, 2010 11:13:04 am PDT #25601 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
I grok a lot of softer BDSM stuff, Tep, and even enjoy it personally, but there is a point at which my mind says "I cannot fathom that there is pleasure in this" in hardcore print/video/movies.
Oh, I'm right there with you. But I figure as long as people are consenting, and I don't have to see it, then if they're into toy boats (or whatever), then right on for them.
Andrea Dworkin. Which is not, actually, what Dworkin said, but it always gets attributed to her.
I was just coming back to post Andrea Dworkin! Cause I went and asked my co-worker. What did she really say? I'm very interested cause I took great exception to that.
Wikipedia actually seems to have the right info: [link]
amych - Jul 15, 2010 11:16:24 am PDT #25602 of 30000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Ha! Tep beat me to the same wiki cite.
(STILL NOT WORKING)
Aims - Jul 15, 2010 11:16:43 am PDT #25603 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Awesome, thanks Steph. And amych (STILL NOT WORKING!)
Same co-worker told me about a panel she got to attend at the University of Michigan on prostitution with Dworkin, MacKinnon, and several actual prostitutes/call girls. She said it was the most awesome discussion she ever got to see.
Daisy Jane - Jul 15, 2010 11:19:53 am PDT #25604 of 30000
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
the women made most of the decisions as to how to dance, what songs, what outfits, hours, etc
There are clubs that don't run that way?
Aims - Jul 15, 2010 11:22:07 am PDT #25605 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.
There are clubs that don't run that way?
No idea, but I think the general idea of strip clubs is the slimy owner making girls work to pay back their stage time and being generally gross. Like she said, one club does not make a study, and I'm sure there are clubs out there that are really gross, but she said this one wasn't.
She also said that the number of college students in there was no urban myth. Most of the girls she worked with were enrolled in day classes.
Strix - Jul 15, 2010 11:29:19 am PDT #25606 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
But I figure as long as people are consenting, and I don't have to see it, then if they're into toy boats (or whatever), then right on for them.
Oh, for certain. I am usually very interested in learning of people's love of toy boats, but I may not want to watch the regatta.