Mal: Then I call it a win. What's the problem? Inara: Should I start with the part where you're stranded in the middle of nowhere, or the part where you have no clothes?

'Trash'


Spike's Bitches 45: That sure as hell wasn't in the brochure.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Connie Neil - Jul 15, 2010 9:36:31 am PDT #25562 of 30000
brillig

I have a dishwasher. It's called a housemate.


Steph L. - Jul 15, 2010 9:36:50 am PDT #25563 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

buried her child here

Que the fuck?

I was reading Dear Prudence over on Slate, and the porn question came up, ie, "My boyfriend is reading porn! Why is he doing such a horrible thing? Doesn't he love me, aren't I enough?" etc.

Given who we are, I'm assuming that most of us don't think porn is a relationship-destroying evil, but that is an assumption. What do others make of the "porn is horrible" issue?

Eh. I can understand how it *can be* (but obviously isn't always) something that becomes an obstacle in a relationship -- like one partner watches so much porn that it takes away time and energy from the relationship.

However, porn is FAR from the only thing that can introduce an obstacle into a relationship. "Golf widows," etc. I'm sure WoW can be just as bad in terms of being a time-suck.

If a relationship isn't actively tended to, it will wither, is my feeling. And if that relationship isn't being tended to, then anything can introduce a fracture. Not just porn.

I like Prudie's general take on it, which is, Guys dig porn, and if it's not causing a problem in your relationship, don't make it into one.

(There is part of my brain that doesn't like the aspect of porn that promotes unrealistic body expectations for women [Brazilians, breast implants, size 00 bodies], and that part does in fact worry that The Boy will compare me unfavorably to women in porn. But that's not a huge concern, really.)


DebetEsse - Jul 15, 2010 9:37:03 am PDT #25564 of 30000
Woe to the fucking wicked.

If she's otherwise unsatisfied with their sex life, I could see it as a culprit/scapegoat/contributing factor. But the major issue there is not the porn, in that case.


Steph L. - Jul 15, 2010 9:38:47 am PDT #25565 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

This reminds me of my high school girlfriend. She thought that women couldn't masturbate, so she said it wasn't fair if I masturbated, and if I did masturbate then it'd be OK for her to sleep with other guys.

I knew a woman in the Freak-Ass Church who told her fiance flat-out that he could never masturbate once they were married, because if he wanted to get off, she'd have as much sex with him as he wanted, whenever he wanted.

Part of me still wants to call her and ask how that EXCEEDINGLY REALISTIC promise is working out for her.


Connie Neil - Jul 15, 2010 9:43:44 am PDT #25566 of 30000
brillig

There is part of my brain that doesn't like the aspect of porn that promotes unrealistic body expectations

Wrod. There was a comment on Prudie that said, "if your guy is comparing you unfavorably to the unrealistic people in porn, time for a new guy." Also, "real, living, interacting people are a lot more fun than porn."

Really, WoW is a perfect comparator for "things that detract form relationships."

But around here, there's a big thing about how porn destroys families and "if I find my husband looking at porn, I'm divorcing him and making sure he never gets near our children again, because it's such a monstrous, contaminating thing."


Jessica - Jul 15, 2010 9:46:45 am PDT #25567 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'd much rather DH watched porn than played golf. At least porn-watching is something we can do together...


Aims - Jul 15, 2010 9:46:49 am PDT #25568 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

call her and ask how that EXCEEDINGLY REALISTIC promise is working out for her.

What? Not everyone goes home and drops trou whenever their spouse gets an itch?

Also, I wonder if that would work going her way, as well? "Honey? Now." "But we're in church." "Praise God, get nekkid."


Strix - Jul 15, 2010 9:49:19 am PDT #25569 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I don't care if D. looks at porn. I don't think he does, too terribly much, but it doesn't bother me. I would think it odder if he did not.

There are plenty of things that can cause a rift in a relationship, but honestly, I think housework would come WAY before porn for most people.

Tep, yes, there is a...something, a rock, a site. I have no idea (whitefont for delicacy and respect)if there are any remains buried there, since I do not want to pry, but it is my assumption.

I completely understand the reasoning behind it, but I do find it a touch disconcerting. Esp. since the father is unknown.

I may take this down in a bit.


Aims - Jul 15, 2010 9:50:07 am PDT #25570 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I think housework would come WAY before porn for most people.

I know which I'd rather do.


Hil R. - Jul 15, 2010 9:52:31 am PDT #25571 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Are you going to be able to make a visit to see places?

Yeah, I'm going to go look at apartments this weekend.