Zoe: What's that, sir? Mal: Freedom, is what. Zoe: No, I meant what's that? Mal: Oh. Yeah. Just step around it. I think something must've been living in here.

'Out Of Gas'


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Zenkitty - Dec 02, 2009 10:25:57 am PST #2194 of 30000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Sounds like it's what you need to do, smonster. Supportive friends and 72-hour silence are good ideas.


§ ita § - Dec 02, 2009 10:32:22 am PST #2195 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If you actually talk on the phone, instead of break and run, then I think it's doing what you have to.


Cass - Dec 02, 2009 10:56:41 am PST #2196 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I really want a business card that says "Pharma-Bitch."

I totes want that tooooo.

smonster, I think that if you've tried before in person that doing this over the phone might be the way you need to go now. I am not always in favor of the phone breakup, but in this case, I can see where it might be the right thing. And I am a text away if you need any support or a shoulder.


brenda m - Dec 02, 2009 11:00:27 am PST #2197 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Over the phone for your reasons is very different than over the phone because you can't be bothered. Do what feels doable, hon.


Vortex - Dec 02, 2009 11:40:28 am PST #2198 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Over the phone for your reasons is very different than over the phone because you can't be bothered.

yes, this.


smonster - Dec 02, 2009 11:46:32 am PST #2199 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Thanks for the feedback, all. Will ponder. The only thing about the phone breakup is that getting my stuff back may be an issue, but all I really care about is my pillow and two cds and they aren't urgent.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Dec 02, 2009 12:05:34 pm PST #2200 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

smonster, that sounds like a crappy situation. I hope the plan goes OK. It sounds very sensible.

Seska, threaten with media and loss of a customer.

I've told them I'm leaving - it's made no difference. I'm going to complain to their 'customer relations' dept (the dark pit into which complaints disappear and nothing emerges) and cc in the disability 'support' people (who can only be reached by fax, apparently)

The trouble is that such service is perfectly standard in this country. Lots of outsourcing to places where they think my nearest branch is Cardiff, lots of computer-generated responses (the Little Britain sketch 'computer says no' is exactly right), etc. We've approached a rival bank about setting up an account, and they're happy to handle it, but wouldn't give me an overdraft. I think this is because I don't have an income. The fact that I've never failed to pay off my overdraft in the twelve years I've been with my current bank apparently means nothing. They're happy to give me a credit card, of course. Like that's clever financial management for the woman with bipolar disorder who's practically innumerate.

I know customer service isn't that much better anywhere else, but I can't believe how sucky it's got over here in the past five years or so. It was never this bad before.

IbetterN, my confirmation class was fab this evening. Philosophical and theological head-spin zone. Great stuff.


DavidS - Dec 02, 2009 12:06:59 pm PST #2201 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Just be prepared, smonster. You may have your reasons, but anybody on the receiving end of being broken up with over the phone is going to feel very aggrieved.

I would be. I'd feel like anybody that had been intimate with me had a responsibility to stand in and tell it to me to my face. I would take that same responsibility.

It might be the right thing to do for you. But it's not really the right thing.

But I think your plan to hand him a letter and leave if you feel yourself weakening is better.


Scrappy - Dec 02, 2009 12:24:42 pm PST #2202 of 30000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Also, you don't have to argue. If he says you aren't giving things a chance or aren't working to fix things, just agree with him. You aren't doing those things because you know that this is what's best for you.


DavidS - Dec 02, 2009 12:27:24 pm PST #2203 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

If he says you aren't giving things a chance or aren't working to fix things, just agree with him. You aren't doing those things because you know that this is what's best for you.

This is true. You don't have to make a case. You just have to let him know you're making a choice. That's your prerogative.