Okay, then I would say I have a fair number of kinks, but not so many fetishes. Not sure if I'm kinky...it's too hard to find people to do *ordinary* stuff with around here.

Scrappy just posted, quite elegantly and clearly, what I've been trying to write and clarify enough to post, so thank you dear, for that.

I am amazed, looking back, at what embarrassed me, what gave me a little thrill of horror, and what titillated me, and what scared the piss out of me, and how those boundaries got expanded.

I tend to think of kink as anything that turns one on, short of permanent change to the body. Ink and piercings can be kink, but mods beyond those...I understand how some people incorporate those into their definition of kink, or even into body image of how-what they see themsevles. For them, permanent change isn't a boundary, but for me, it isn't one I've been willing to cross, and may never be.

Oops. Had a minor emergency and left the computer with this up in the posting box. No doubt things have moved on. Ah well, my two cents, at any road.

I don't have any fetishes but I'm very malleable when it comes to kinks. I never really thought about barefoot guys until ita mentioned them but now I want to look for pictures.

I never really thought about barefoot guys until ita mentioned them but now I want to look for pictures.

[link] if you want some of the work already done for you. It's a thing. Not a fetish, not even a kink. I just like the pictures.

oh my! fans self

You need 'em wet, like glasses, like hands, enjoy skirts...I like making categories.

ah Yes, I have already done the circuit with one guy. My eyeballs are sweating. I never realized how sexy spectacles could be.

Fetishes are little meaningful carved stone things that I buy on trips to NM or Arizona!!

Kinks are what I get in my neck when I sleep wrong.

/naive

Innnteresting convo.

I think, with words, since they are symbols about which the majority of humans agree, mutually, that "X" is the meaning to which we attach to "X" word, that definitions have their places. Else all would be chaos. That said, the nature of linguistics being, necessarily fluid, the exact meaning of a word can and does change as society (being made up, as it is, by wacky humans) changes definitions.

What is generally accepted as fetish is something not specifically sexual that a person needs in order to achieve sexual arousal or climax.

Kinky is something, sometimes sexual, sometimes not necessarily sexual, that people find arousing, but it is not needed to become sexually aroused or to climax. (But it *is* fun! Ahem.)

I think that since fetish is a more specifically psychological phenomenon, its definition is still pretty static, but since awareness of fetishes, and conversations about the variety in sexual practices, have become more open in recent years, it is used sometimes as applying to something that isn't really a fetish, per se.

Kinky is much more fluid. The range is FAR wider, since the range of what different individuals regard as "normal" sexual practices is far more diverse. Crotchless panties or oral sex might be justifiably regarded by one person as the most outre in kink, whereas to their neighbor, it's just, y'know, Tuesday night.

The problem with defining "what is kinky?" is akin to the problem in defining "what is pornographic?" Eye of the beholder, methinks.

I think precision of language is really important (/pedant-wordgeek) because I would even hesitate to use the word "normal" in regards to sexuality -- I would probably say "within the range of what is regarded, by the majority of persons within a specific culture, as normative practices."

Oh, and also? Much safe-ma to Fay. I am worried about her.