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Steph L. - Feb 21, 2010 1:35:30 pm PST #10641 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I've lost about 25 pounds in the past nine months or so, and my joint pain has been getting consistently worse.

When I lost about 25 pounds last year, my blood pressure went up enough, and stayed there, leading to me going back on the BP meds that I had gone off a few years before. Fooking weird.

do any of our medical-type Buffistas know if there's any actual science behind the cabbage-leaves-in-the-bra-to-suppress-milk-production thing?

I've never heard of that. Let me poke around the intertubes and see what turns up.


Steph L. - Feb 21, 2010 1:39:05 pm PST #10642 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

It seems like it doesn't actually suppress the production of milk, but helps with engorgement from fluid trapped in interstital spaces: [link] (That's not a highly scientific web site, but the info makes sense.)


Laga - Feb 21, 2010 1:42:27 pm PST #10643 of 30000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I'm glad it's not more serious, Drew. Can the reduced fat diet eliminate the need for surgery?

edit: I just saw Kristin's post. Wikipedia says the gall bladder is a non-essential organ so, simplification, yay?


Jessica - Feb 21, 2010 1:43:19 pm PST #10644 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Thanks Tep!

I especially appreciate the warning on that page that cabbage should not be used by individuals who are allergic to cabbage.

Also loving their instructions:

Instructions: How to use of cabbage leaf compresses

1. Purchase a head of common green cabbage at the grocery store.


Stephanie - Feb 21, 2010 1:46:59 pm PST #10645 of 30000
Trust my rage

Jess, I think the cabbage leaf thing is true. I've heard you just take the leaves and stick them in your bra.

To use cabbage compresses for engorgement:

Wash a fresh head of green cabbage and place cabbage in refrigerator to chill. Just before use, crush the veins with a rolling pin or similar object or slice off the tops of the "veins" with a sharp knife, whatever makes the leaves shape to your breast most easily.

Drape one or two leaves over each breast, covering ALL of the engorged area. Leave on until they become wilted, about 20 to 30 minutes. Repeat three or four times within a 24 hour period, or until engorgement subsides. This will usually be within one to two days. If the engorgement is severe, compresses can be used as often as every 4 hours, but care should be taken as there is indication that cabbage leaves can work TOO well and end up reducing mother’s milk supply.

For the mother who is not breastfeeding, cabbage compresses can be used continuously to help dry up her milk. Discontinue immediately if skin becomes irritated.

from here: [link] (which you may or may not want to avoid since it's mostly written from a breastfeeding perspective.)


billytea - Feb 21, 2010 1:48:15 pm PST #10646 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Of course, for special occasions you should dig up one of those decorative cabbages from the front of an apartment block or something.


Polter-Cow - Feb 21, 2010 1:49:33 pm PST #10647 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Tep, I am now the proud owner of this. I came across it in a used bookstore. I thought you should know that such a thing exists. I...considered getting it for you but I, uh, really wanted it for myself.


brenda m - Feb 21, 2010 1:53:17 pm PST #10648 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

1. Purchase a head of common green cabbage at the grocery store.

No stealing cabbages!


meara - Feb 21, 2010 2:02:10 pm PST #10649 of 30000

No stealing cabbages!

Yeah, that might lead to Evil Witches wanting things from you or something, isn't that how it goes? Make sure if you steal cabbages you steal them from a good witch's garden...

I went and looked at a house today. As in, contemplating buying houses kind of looking. What a scary thought. This house would be nice for several reasons, but am not sure if Right House would "grab me" or what. It is possibly the only house currently on the market that I could afford/would want. But...


beth b - Feb 21, 2010 2:02:29 pm PST #10650 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

My blood pressure went up because I got a second chronic condition. My feeling is that high blood pressure is most likely a symptom of something not right. i am going to guess that even losing weight --which would possibly improve both my asthma and diabetes - I would still need pills for high blood pressure. Most of my doctor experiences have been pretty neutral. Only one annoyed me -- because i had that stupid bronchial cough that kept me up at night - he dismissed it and gave me something that did nothing- at the way low does he gave me. I'm kind of glad I encounter him. He is the reason I look up everything in the PDR or equivalent. Because what he gave me did work at the therapeutic dose.

Good luck Drew. Low fat is hard on the road, but less pain is worth the trouble