Wait. People? She eats people? 'To Serve Man.' It's 'To Serve Man' all over again.

Gunn ,'Power Play'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Aug 20, 2009 6:27:09 pm PDT #4802 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

mac is crashed out on my bed.

I think we've done what we can for the moment. We'll see people Sat and Tues and I'll work to get some additional introductory meetings on my own (it's psychiatrist search 09). Dad will be here within the hour and tomorrow morning we will work out a plan for the day. mac will start on some meds tomorrow night. we will work one day at a time and look further ahead maybe after a few days of non-emergencies.

thank you all for listening and supporting. I may have a request for research assistance tomorrow.


sarameg - Aug 20, 2009 6:37:42 pm PDT #4803 of 30001

Many good thought to you. All you can do, one day as it is. Hope R can help, but she's had a wringer of a day too.


meara - Aug 20, 2009 6:40:17 pm PDT #4804 of 30001

Oof, msbelle. Good luck with everything.

Brenda, that IS quite the day-capper. I hope not bad enough to need stitches or anything?

I just got home from Fresno and ended up sitting in my car in the garage for a few minutes listening to Joel Berg talk about hunger on NPR. It was fascinating and oddly hopeful at the same time. I thoroughly enjoyed it.


Amy - Aug 20, 2009 6:40:42 pm PDT #4805 of 30001
Because books.

I'm so glad to hear that, msbelle. I've been thinking about you guys all day.


brenda m - Aug 20, 2009 6:42:53 pm PDT #4806 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Tiny but deep - I don't think stitches would help anything. But the bleeding is starting to slow.


DavidS - Aug 20, 2009 6:47:14 pm PDT #4807 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Yikes, brenda, what a finish to your day.

msbelle, I'm glad things are moving (every so slightly) out of crisis mode.

ION, there's a dispute about the gender of the female winner of a track and field event.

The illuminating part is that it's an issue that's recurred multiple times during the history of track and field.


meara - Aug 20, 2009 7:20:34 pm PDT #4808 of 30001

Not just track and field, David. And there's a common issue of androgen insensitivity syndrome that can happen, or several other chromosomal things, that have happened, now that they can do that sort of testing. They've had to make up rules about who "counts". It's sort of ridiculous, but...at the same time, shows how ridiculous the whole binary sex system is.

According to this article in Slate eight women athletes tested as having Y chromosomes at the Atlanta Olympics.


beth b - Aug 20, 2009 7:43:07 pm PDT #4809 of 30001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I had a conversation about that runner. Not sure which way I'd say if I had no clues, but since hanging with the Buffistas my definition of gender is much more fluid. I figure if some one wants to be called she, she is a she. I guess for things that are divided by gender you might need a more ridged definition, but I still think self-identity is primary.


DavidS - Aug 20, 2009 7:59:26 pm PDT #4810 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

but I still think self-identity is primary.

I don't think that'll play in the 100 meter dash. Did RuPaul's Drag Race ever actually have the drag queens racing?

One of the interesting biological anomalies they referenced was getting a superabundance of testosterone from the adrenal gland.

Sort of like a built in steroids advantage. But it's naturally occurring, so how is it different from somebody with quick twitch muscles or supernal eye-hand coordination or other inherent physical advantages?


beth b - Aug 20, 2009 10:44:26 pm PDT #4811 of 30001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

oh, it won't.

Whoo hoo we fixed the toilet. The best part -- DH on the ground and the cat climbing up his side to see what ws going on . When the cat couldn't see -he decide DH was a great place for a nap. priceless.