Don't belong. Dangerous, like you. Can't be controlled. Can't be trusted. Everyone could just go on without me and not have to worry. People could be what they wanted to be. Could be with the people they wanted. Live simple. No secrets.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Aug 20, 2009 7:59:26 pm PDT #4810 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

but I still think self-identity is primary.

I don't think that'll play in the 100 meter dash. Did RuPaul's Drag Race ever actually have the drag queens racing?

One of the interesting biological anomalies they referenced was getting a superabundance of testosterone from the adrenal gland.

Sort of like a built in steroids advantage. But it's naturally occurring, so how is it different from somebody with quick twitch muscles or supernal eye-hand coordination or other inherent physical advantages?


beth b - Aug 20, 2009 10:44:26 pm PDT #4811 of 30001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

oh, it won't.

Whoo hoo we fixed the toilet. The best part -- DH on the ground and the cat climbing up his side to see what ws going on . When the cat couldn't see -he decide DH was a great place for a nap. priceless.


dcp - Aug 21, 2009 12:09:09 am PDT #4812 of 30001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Tiny but deep

How recent was your last tetanus booster?


flea - Aug 21, 2009 1:17:11 am PDT #4813 of 30001
information libertarian

msbelle, if you are talking research as in articles in medical or psychiatry journals (i.e. about meds and kids) please email me - I have access to a lot of scholarly databases with that stuff.


Theodosia - Aug 21, 2009 2:43:08 am PDT #4814 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

There was a Spanish runner a couple years ago who ended up banned from competing in women's races because of androgen insensitivity syndrome. 'Technically' she was an XY, physically she was female (missing a uterus), and had been young enough that her 'delayed' menarche had been attributed to lean body mass and training regimen. What a horrible way to find out something like that about yourself!

The irony of the androgen insensitivity is that you're immune to most performance-enhancing steroids, so she couldn't even 'cheat' if she wanted to.


Sparky1 - Aug 21, 2009 3:36:05 am PDT #4815 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

msbelle, I'm happy to help if I can.

Other librarians/university types: Anyone have access to the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography?

Some poor, clueless woman posted on the local listserv for a nanny 30 hours/week offering to pay between $100-200. While some people have gently pointed out that this isn't minimum wage, other people are being downright mean. I can't imagine what she's getting off-list. Considering how difficult and stressful finding care is, I really feel sorry for her. (signed, added our names to 12 daycare wait lists in January and still waiting)


flea - Aug 21, 2009 3:39:17 am PDT #4816 of 30001
information libertarian

Sparky, I have the Oxford DNB. What do you need? Feel free to take to email.


Sparky1 - Aug 21, 2009 3:44:50 am PDT #4817 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

Thanks, flea! Insent.

Now what do you know about Portuguese intellectual property law?

::knows it's not fair to try and get everyone else to do my work::


flea - Aug 21, 2009 3:55:35 am PDT #4818 of 30001
information libertarian

Insent, I know nothing about Portuguese intellectual property law and would like to keep it that way, and the funny thing about your listserv story is full-time daycare down here (even for infants) actually costs about $125-165 a week. Now, that's not an in-home nanny - it's group care, with 4-6 kids per caregiver - but I for one was STUNNED by how cheap it is.


Tom Scola - Aug 21, 2009 3:55:49 am PDT #4819 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Good morning. I got 10 hours of sleep last night, it's Friday, I have no after-hours maintenance scheduled for today, and I'm wearing my new shoes.