I am not...I am not the damsel in distress. I am not some case. I have to work this. I've lived in a cave for 5 years in a world where they killed my kind like cattle. I am not going to be cut down by some monster flu. I am better than that. What a wonder...how very scared I am.

Fred ,'A Hole in the World'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


lisah - Aug 06, 2009 11:40:17 am PDT #2450 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

me too

man that burns my toast


Burrell - Aug 06, 2009 11:48:33 am PDT #2451 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I don't blame isolation or the internets, goodness knows. But I do think that we as a society need to do much much more to reinforce the recognition that other people exist. And not just the other people you like, or are related to, or know personally. That the stranger sitting across from you on the bus is as tangibly present and real as you are. Same with the people half way across the world that you've never seen. That even without your contemplating their existence, others exist.

I know y'all know that others are real, I am not complaining of anyone here. But I feel like there's a pervasive denial in this culture of the reality that what we do and what we say touches on other people.


erikaj - Aug 06, 2009 11:48:47 am PDT #2452 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

wow, I'm devastatingly late for my crime spree then. Although I have been occasionally disturbed by my surface similarities to, say, Robert Bardo. We're both from Arizona, iffy job and romantic histories, and we both have a stable of famous strangers we love SO MUCH. Only I'm not the angry kind of crazy, and my parents didn't beat me up. And I think everyone here could take me, too, of course.


Dana - Aug 06, 2009 11:51:15 am PDT #2453 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Why do Craigslist people suck so much?


Calli - Aug 06, 2009 11:52:56 am PDT #2454 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Why do Craigslist people suck so much?

Too much exposure to these?


msbelle - Aug 06, 2009 11:53:43 am PDT #2455 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

what is it Dana, not getting back to you? not showing up for soemthing?


Dana - Aug 06, 2009 11:54:19 am PDT #2456 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Not getting back, usually. This guy called and left a message. I called him back. He asked if he could call me back around 1 or 1:30. Here I sit.


Steph L. - Aug 06, 2009 11:56:02 am PDT #2457 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I do think that we as a society need to do much much more to reinforce the recognition that other people exist.

I agree with this in an overall way.

But w/r/t the dude who shot up the gym -- he had problems that were so severe and so entrenched that being recognized in a friendly interpersonal way would not have helped. At all.

t edit And I realize that you weren't prescribing that as what could have fixed this dude. I totally get that.


sarameg - Aug 06, 2009 11:56:25 am PDT #2458 of 30001

Ok, the city didn't take my recycling. WTF? Is it just because I don't have a yellow bucket? The hell? I haven't had a chance to get one yet!!!1


lisah - Aug 06, 2009 11:58:19 am PDT #2459 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

Ok, the city didn't take my recycling. WTF? Is it just because I don't have a yellow bucket? The hell? I haven't had a chance to get one yet!!!1

No they are supposed to take the recycling in anything. I just put mine out in an old blue tub. They may be late. They didn't pick up my trash until the mid-late afternoon yesterday. Did they pick up everyone else's?