Willow: Yes. Hi. You must be Angel's handsome, yet androgynous, son. Connor: It's Connor. Willow: And the sneer's genetic. Who knew?

'A Hole in the World'


Natter 64: Yes, we still need you  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Dana - Aug 06, 2009 11:54:19 am PDT #2456 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Not getting back, usually. This guy called and left a message. I called him back. He asked if he could call me back around 1 or 1:30. Here I sit.


Steph L. - Aug 06, 2009 11:56:02 am PDT #2457 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I do think that we as a society need to do much much more to reinforce the recognition that other people exist.

I agree with this in an overall way.

But w/r/t the dude who shot up the gym -- he had problems that were so severe and so entrenched that being recognized in a friendly interpersonal way would not have helped. At all.

t edit And I realize that you weren't prescribing that as what could have fixed this dude. I totally get that.


sarameg - Aug 06, 2009 11:56:25 am PDT #2458 of 30001

Ok, the city didn't take my recycling. WTF? Is it just because I don't have a yellow bucket? The hell? I haven't had a chance to get one yet!!!1


lisah - Aug 06, 2009 11:58:19 am PDT #2459 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

Ok, the city didn't take my recycling. WTF? Is it just because I don't have a yellow bucket? The hell? I haven't had a chance to get one yet!!!1

No they are supposed to take the recycling in anything. I just put mine out in an old blue tub. They may be late. They didn't pick up my trash until the mid-late afternoon yesterday. Did they pick up everyone else's?


Burrell - Aug 06, 2009 11:58:24 am PDT #2460 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

But w/r/t the dude who shot up the gym -- he had problems that were so severe and so entrenched that being recognized in a friendly interpersonal way would not have helped. At all.

Oh yeah, I didn't mean to sound like all he needed was a friendly hello.


msbelle - Aug 06, 2009 11:59:19 am PDT #2461 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

The craigslist thing is a low-level version of what Burrell said.

I do think that we as a society need to do much much more to reinforce the recognition that other people exist.

you know most people would not just leave someone they know hanging, but people on craigslist and freecycle do it ALL THE TIME. don't show up, don't return calls or emails - I think at the core it's because they don't fuly see the people at the other end that the are inconviencing as people - they don't know them, it's easy to just handwave it away.


sarameg - Aug 06, 2009 12:00:05 pm PDT #2462 of 30001

Did they pick up everyone else's?

Yes.


Steph L. - Aug 06, 2009 12:02:13 pm PDT #2463 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

But w/r/t the dude who shot up the gym -- he had problems that were so severe and so entrenched that being recognized in a friendly interpersonal way would not have helped. At all.

Oh yeah, I didn't mean to sound like all he needed was a friendly hello.

And I knew you didn't. You are right, that it would be a good thing if everyone extended themselves even a little outside of their bubble.


lisah - Aug 06, 2009 12:02:39 pm PDT #2464 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

uh...huh...You definitely don't need a special container. I know that for sure. weird.


Burrell - Aug 06, 2009 12:03:07 pm PDT #2465 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I think at the core it's because they don't fuly see the people at the other end that the are inconviencing as people

Yeps.