You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Typo Boy - Mar 21, 2009 2:55:45 pm PDT #827 of 5827
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah, no longer pings with a burning hate. But no real love either. I think I'm going end up as an occasional watcher, with no concern for catching up on missed episodes.


Polter-Cow - Mar 21, 2009 4:03:21 pm PDT #828 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I actually thought this one was over about halfway through -- how'd they DO that?

I know! I remember being totally surprised to discover that I was only twenty minutes in.

This episode really did feel more like what the show should be like, and I loved that the Men on the Street gave such varied opinions. It showed that Joss and Co. really have thought about all the skeeviness. But they also made cases for why the Dollhouse might be a good thing.

Loved all the plot twists. TWENTY Dollhouses! Someone on the inside! Mellie's a Sleeper Active! While I agree that "X is an Active" is going to get old, I...think I heart sleeper agents? As for the person on the inside, I also think Lab Tech Yuki is a good bet.

I'm much more intrigued by the show now. I hope they continue in this direction.


tiggy - Mar 21, 2009 4:05:30 pm PDT #829 of 5827
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

my question was...what about the voicemail? Mellie didn't erase it. won't Paul think that's weird? or am i supposed to handwave?


Polter-Cow - Mar 21, 2009 4:09:16 pm PDT #830 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Maybe they REMOTE WIPED it. Hee.


Liese S. - Mar 21, 2009 4:15:03 pm PDT #831 of 5827
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

So angry about Sierra's child abuse, btw. Not letting that slide. Angry.

Glad to know you've made it all better for her. Except, oh yeah, you haven't.


Kevin - Mar 21, 2009 4:28:22 pm PDT #832 of 5827
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Is there a way to make child abuse better?


Nora Deirdre - Mar 21, 2009 4:30:52 pm PDT #833 of 5827
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

who the hell uses an answering machine anymore, anyway?


Dana - Mar 21, 2009 4:42:19 pm PDT #834 of 5827
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

who the hell uses an answering machine anymore, anyway?

Your secret sleeper agent, I guess.


tiggy - Mar 21, 2009 4:44:42 pm PDT #835 of 5827
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

nah, that was Paul's.


Juliebird - Mar 21, 2009 4:57:08 pm PDT #836 of 5827
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

My parents.

I don't want to touch Sierra's story with a ten-foot pole, and the end creeped me out to no ends, what with the sweet tender music of "see? Isn't is a good thing we're doing? And then they'll have sex because he paid for it."

It's sad, people die, and it's sad, and horrific. Then they couple that with "well, I paid for it."

Except, on the other hand, if I am to buy into the "it's rape" when the dolls have sex, then the whole thing is rape. It's weird that it took this ep to come to that conclusion, what with the heart-string-pulling, but, if the sex is rape, so is love and enamourment that comes with it. Penetration of a body, penetration of a mind. It's all better now because I equate it with the wiping of the original mind, or it's worse because I equate the wiping of the mind with the physical act of sex (rape)?

Does Paul's relationship with Mellie now equal rape because it's not her original personality giving consent, even though Paul does not know that she doesn't have a choice? Is rape and it's definition not applicable and a new term is needed? Or no, because the act of power and control is being performed by Adelle?