Is there a way to make child abuse better?
Jayne, you'll scare the women.
Zoe ,'Bushwhacked'
Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers
TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.
Kevin - Mar 21, 2009 4:28:22 pm PDT #832 of 5827
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Nora Deirdre - Mar 21, 2009 4:30:52 pm PDT #833 of 5827
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
who the hell uses an answering machine anymore, anyway?
Dana - Mar 21, 2009 4:42:19 pm PDT #834 of 5827
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
who the hell uses an answering machine anymore, anyway?
Your secret sleeper agent, I guess.
tiggy - Mar 21, 2009 4:44:42 pm PDT #835 of 5827
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
nah, that was Paul's.
Juliebird - Mar 21, 2009 4:57:08 pm PDT #836 of 5827
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
My parents.
I don't want to touch Sierra's story with a ten-foot pole, and the end creeped me out to no ends, what with the sweet tender music of "see? Isn't is a good thing we're doing? And then they'll have sex because he paid for it."
It's sad, people die, and it's sad, and horrific. Then they couple that with "well, I paid for it."
Except, on the other hand, if I am to buy into the "it's rape" when the dolls have sex, then the whole thing is rape. It's weird that it took this ep to come to that conclusion, what with the heart-string-pulling, but, if the sex is rape, so is love and enamourment that comes with it. Penetration of a body, penetration of a mind. It's all better now because I equate it with the wiping of the original mind, or it's worse because I equate the wiping of the mind with the physical act of sex (rape)?
Does Paul's relationship with Mellie now equal rape because it's not her original personality giving consent, even though Paul does not know that she doesn't have a choice? Is rape and it's definition not applicable and a new term is needed? Or no, because the act of power and control is being performed by Adelle?
Dana - Mar 21, 2009 5:04:20 pm PDT #837 of 5827
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Oh, it was Ballard's place, wasn't it.
DCJensen - Mar 21, 2009 6:48:35 pm PDT #838 of 5827
All is well that ends in pizza.
who the hell uses an answering machine anymore, anyway?
t raises hand
Laga - Mar 21, 2009 6:51:34 pm PDT #839 of 5827
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
My answering machine keeps me from having to talk to telemarketers.
omnis_audis - Mar 21, 2009 8:50:59 pm PDT #840 of 5827
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir
I finally caught this weeks episode. Not much to add that hasn't been said. So I'll make a geek/tech observation. Did anyone see a reflection of cameraman in the kitchen in the beginning?
Strix - Mar 21, 2009 9:02:09 pm PDT #841 of 5827
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Um, can't Alpha be logically the inside guy? I mean, he can do all the techie-wowie "Sweet crunchie geekery, it cann BE DONE!" stuff. All the imprint stuff could probably be hacked into with the right skills, and it seems like Aplha has a vested interest in Echo. She's a sleeper agent who is asleep, but who seems to be about to wake up.
Also? Love that Mellie and Paul got together and was v. happy she kicked pervo's ass.
Interesting take on the Mellie/Paul sex. Technically, it's nonconsensual, since Mellie doesn't know it's happening. However, it's also nonconsensual for Paul, since he would presumably, given his whole crusade, not have sex with a Doll.
So sadly I come to the conclusion that neither Mellie or Paul were raped by the other; but the Dollhouse raped them both using each other's unknowing bodies.