I don't follow TV online other places (although I will occasionally read stuff if it's linked here) but have others drawn the same rape connection that we have? Because I came to that conclusion all by myself, but I'm sort of surprised that Joss hasn't commented on it or that the few linked things I've read haven't mentioned it.
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Stephanie - Feb 24, 2009 8:54:27 am PST #75 of 5827
Trust my rage
Jon B. - Feb 24, 2009 8:55:18 am PST #76 of 5827
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Dollhouse has deliberately chosen a form of rape that is harder to handle non-exploitively, but seems to put less effort than an after-school special into making it non-exploitive and instead makes it as titillating as possible.
I understand the general rape-related arguments about the show, but I'm not sure how your post furthers them, Typo. Was there even a sex scene in the first episode? And in the second episode, while there was sex, I thought it was really brief. I won't say it wasn't shot to be titillating, but I see WAY more explicit and titillating stuff on network TV all the time. If anything, I thought it was restrained.
SailAweigh - Feb 24, 2009 8:55:35 am PST #77 of 5827
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
Emily, that's an interesting take I sure hadn't thought of.
Jessica - Feb 24, 2009 9:01:08 am PST #78 of 5827
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
Was there even a sex scene in the first episode?
Yes - during the mindwipe sequence there's a brief flashback to sex with her date/client.
(And just to be completely honest here, I found the first ep offensive enough that I did not watch it again when it aired nor have I seen the second ep. So it's possible that the sex was cut out of the broadcast version of the pilot.)
Emily - Feb 24, 2009 9:03:35 am PST #79 of 5827
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
Let me clarify that the answer may well be yes, actually. There may be a victim of rape without an intentional act of rape, and indeed the Dollhouse clients know perfectly well what they're getting into. But the identity issue surely complicates it a little.
Burrell - Feb 24, 2009 9:14:35 am PST #80 of 5827
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
The sex was still there, Jessica. I thought I read in one of interviews that sex part was something he wanted to explore.
Polter-Cow - Feb 24, 2009 9:15:30 am PST #81 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
So it's possible that the sex was cut out of the broadcast version of the pilot.
Nope, it's still there.
Frankenbuddha - Feb 24, 2009 9:21:06 am PST #82 of 5827
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Was there even a sex scene in the first episode?
I think it was mentioned that she had slept with motorcycle race client, but I don't remember an actual sex scene. I was very distracted when I watched it, though.
Steph L. - Feb 24, 2009 9:23:37 am PST #83 of 5827
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
but have others drawn the same rape connection that we have?
Quite a few people on LJ (which is the only place I've read) came to that conclusion right away.
§ ita § - Feb 24, 2009 9:28:29 am PST #84 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I've read a couple reviews to that end.