My love for me now / Ain't hard to explain / The Hero of Canton / The man they call...ME.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Kevin - Mar 19, 2009 8:41:44 am PDT #748 of 5827
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

According to Eliza there was a 'romance script' written very early on - possibly gay romance, I can't remember - and it was tossed out by the network.

Here's a thing:

"Man on the Street" definitely contains elements that were pitched by or developed by people at the network in terms of the motivations of the Dollhouse and the feel of the politics of the thing and the thriller aspect.

To my mind, if FOX edged Whedon to produce a well reviewed, well received episode - all credit to the network for that.


Steph L. - Mar 19, 2009 1:31:09 pm PDT #749 of 5827
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Most of the dolls are there voluntarily, but knowing that at least one isn't, doesn't that continue to make the show uncomfortable?

Do we know that most are there voluntarily? Who isn't?

I was wondering that, too. I don't remember anything other than Computer Guy saying something like "They chose to be here," and Handler Guy asking, "Did they?"

But I don't remember anything about a specific person being there involuntarily.


Dana - Mar 19, 2009 1:32:56 pm PDT #750 of 5827
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

It seems like Caroline was at least partially coerced, though we don't know any of the details.


megan walker - Mar 19, 2009 1:38:03 pm PDT #751 of 5827
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

It seems like Caroline was at least partially coerced,

Not to me. From what I saw, she was presented with two options and she chose this one. It might not have been two great options, but it was her choice.


Dana - Mar 19, 2009 1:39:59 pm PDT #752 of 5827
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

If her other option was jail, does that count as coercion?


megan walker - Mar 19, 2009 1:45:35 pm PDT #753 of 5827
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

If her other option was jail, does that count as coercion?

Not if she committed a crime.


Dana - Mar 19, 2009 1:46:39 pm PDT #754 of 5827
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Yeah. Knee-jerk response from having spent my formative years in Nikita fandom.

I'm sure we'll find out -- well, if the show survives past a certain point, I'm sure we'll find out the story.


Kevin - Mar 19, 2009 2:06:37 pm PDT #755 of 5827
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Uhm, I can answer the question about the question, but it's a spoiler:

you find out in the episode they're talking to Joss about. Press peeps have been given screeners of episodes 6 and 8.


brenda m - Mar 19, 2009 2:55:33 pm PDT #756 of 5827
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

It seems like Caroline was at least partially coerced,

It felt like they were setting up a Femme Nikita kind of situation, but no details to really show what side of the line it fell on. Given everything else, though, I'll be mightily surprised if it doesn't turn out that some if not most are "volunteers" rather than, you know, actual volunteers.


Juliebird - Mar 19, 2009 3:40:28 pm PDT #757 of 5827
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Although the paragraph containing "titillating" says yes, more gratuitous sex, the following paragraph seemed to read counter to that. That it would be more (ideal) Inara situations. The "let's talk about sex and sexuality in addition to showing it" that I vaguely remember reading about.

I'm so confused. Even if he really meant the latter, it didn't pan out well for Inara. (Whore!)