Hey, if it means I don't have to read any more, woo and, might I add, a big hoo.

Xander ,'Sleeper'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 17, 2018 5:58:36 am PDT #5712 of 5827
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

At least the dresses are likely to be awesome?


Pix - Jul 20, 2018 8:49:27 pm PDT #5713 of 5827
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

...Did we know about this? [link]


aurelia - Jul 21, 2018 4:20:38 am PDT #5714 of 5827
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I'm looking at Monica Owusu-Breen's writing credits and I'm amused that she has a Fringe episode titled "Enemy of My Enemy" and a S.H.I.E.L.D. ep titled "Frenemy of my Enemy".


Kalshane - Jul 21, 2018 5:39:48 am PDT #5715 of 5827
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Huh.

I would hope they're going to do all new stories while keeping the name and the general world. I'd have zero interest in a retread of the original storylines.


DXMachina - Jul 21, 2018 2:09:43 pm PDT #5716 of 5827
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I'd have zero interest in a retread of the original storylines.

Neither would I, but I don't think that's what they're saying at all. They said "build on the mythology of the original." To me that just means they aren't starting from scratch.


Dana - Jul 21, 2018 2:18:18 pm PDT #5717 of 5827
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I've seen the word "reboot" in a couple of places, but that may just be people using imprecise language.


DavidS - Jul 21, 2018 2:20:05 pm PDT #5718 of 5827
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

After the announcement of the Buffy reboot, I saw some Twitter hot takes calling Joss a sexual predator.

I'm curious to see how Buffistas see him now. Do you consider him a sexual predator?

Personally I don't see him in that category - just rather typical Hollywood sleeziness with producers sleeping with actresses. And obviously that's an asymmetrical relationship with him having more power, but none of the women involved (as far as I know) suggested harassment or quid pro quo arrangements.

But I'm just wondering what your perspective is at this point.


Jessica - Jul 21, 2018 3:42:01 pm PDT #5719 of 5827
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I think part of why "typical Hollywood sleaziness" *is* so typical is because people haven't, until now, called that behavior out as that of a sexual predator.

I don't know. I don't want a reboot. I don't want Joss involved. An independently written sequel with a diverse cast and modern issues - yes, please, I want that. (But what if it's really bad? What if it's the Ultron of the Buffyverse?)


Dana - Jul 21, 2018 3:49:59 pm PDT #5720 of 5827
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

And obviously that's an asymmetrical relationship with him having more power

Which is kinda what makes it predatory.


P.M. Marc - Jul 21, 2018 4:28:21 pm PDT #5721 of 5827
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Which is kinda what makes it predatory.

I think it's gross, but I am not sure I'd call it overtly predatory. I think it's part of the same mindset of entitlement that is part of the toxic culture that leads to overtly predatory behavior, but unless one of the actresses apparently involved comes out and says anything, it falls shy of that in my mental taxonomy of shit behavior.