I've seen the word "reboot" in a couple of places, but that may just be people using imprecise language.
Okay, um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm angry, and I'm armed, so if you two have something that you need to work out --
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Dana - Jul 21, 2018 2:18:18 pm PDT #5717 of 5827
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
DavidS - Jul 21, 2018 2:20:05 pm PDT #5718 of 5827
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
After the announcement of the Buffy reboot, I saw some Twitter hot takes calling Joss a sexual predator.
I'm curious to see how Buffistas see him now. Do you consider him a sexual predator?
Personally I don't see him in that category - just rather typical Hollywood sleeziness with producers sleeping with actresses. And obviously that's an asymmetrical relationship with him having more power, but none of the women involved (as far as I know) suggested harassment or quid pro quo arrangements.
But I'm just wondering what your perspective is at this point.
Jessica - Jul 21, 2018 3:42:01 pm PDT #5719 of 5827
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I think part of why "typical Hollywood sleaziness" *is* so typical is because people haven't, until now, called that behavior out as that of a sexual predator.
I don't know. I don't want a reboot. I don't want Joss involved. An independently written sequel with a diverse cast and modern issues - yes, please, I want that. (But what if it's really bad? What if it's the Ultron of the Buffyverse?)
Dana - Jul 21, 2018 3:49:59 pm PDT #5720 of 5827
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
And obviously that's an asymmetrical relationship with him having more power
Which is kinda what makes it predatory.
P.M. Marc - Jul 21, 2018 4:28:21 pm PDT #5721 of 5827
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Which is kinda what makes it predatory.
I think it's gross, but I am not sure I'd call it overtly predatory. I think it's part of the same mindset of entitlement that is part of the toxic culture that leads to overtly predatory behavior, but unless one of the actresses apparently involved comes out and says anything, it falls shy of that in my mental taxonomy of shit behavior.
Dana - Jul 21, 2018 5:18:01 pm PDT #5722 of 5827
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Yeah, I can see that argument. I guess I'm just not interested in dedicating much mental bandwidth into grading this specific degree of shittiness. Which I don't mean to sound dismissive. It just exhausts me that we have to argue again about why a white guy deserves another chance.
amych - Jul 21, 2018 5:58:14 pm PDT #5723 of 5827
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
I am Dana in this.
sj - Jul 21, 2018 6:32:27 pm PDT #5724 of 5827
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
I'm with Plei.
-t - Jul 21, 2018 6:33:02 pm PDT #5725 of 5827
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
To be honest, what I mostly hold against Joss is the comment he made in the letter about being surrounded by needy young women and not being able to touch them because married. It's just, ew, don't want to hear anything more from him after that. I don't trust him to give me a fictional world I want to spend time in like I used to.
P.M. Marc - Jul 21, 2018 7:05:49 pm PDT #5726 of 5827
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I don't have any real interest in his future work, TBH. So it's not like I will be giving him a shot. It's just that for me, personally, grading the degree of shitty is important when it comes to unpacking this shit.