Well, shit.
Why do people have to be terrible?
(To be clear, not you people, just people in general and Joss specifically.)
Gunn: You ready? Fred: Is no an acceptable answer?
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Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers
TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.
Kalshane - Aug 21, 2017 4:40:31 pm PDT #5678 of 5827
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Zenkitty - Aug 21, 2017 10:51:59 pm PDT #5679 of 5827
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
I'm disappointed and sad that he was such a mansplaining manipulative jerk wad to her. But I'm not really surprised about any of it.
What he did to her is basically, as I understand it, what my ex-not!husband did to me. I completely believe she has an anxiety disorder now.
I still like his work, no more or less than before, but I don't like him anymore. Alas.
Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 22, 2017 2:41:17 am PDT #5680 of 5827
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Yeah, the bloom had been fading off that rose for me with every interview for years now. But Buffy is still my all-time favorite TV show, and I'll always be grateful that it put me in contact with at least half of the friends I currently have.
amych - Aug 22, 2017 11:14:04 am PDT #5681 of 5827
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Yeah, it's not going to take away everything Buffy has meant to me (THING NUMBER ONE: YOU PEOPLE), but I've been doing a lot of hard thinking not only about Joss being a jerk (which has been evident for a while now), but about how much of a pass he's gotten on Buffy's coattails for work that's often not really at all feminist. And honestly about BtVS itself -- which was feminist for its time in some ways, but not really in others, and got too much credit for being, like, the first and only feminist show in the history of ever!!!1! and nope.
Frankenbuddha - Aug 24, 2017 9:21:39 am PDT #5682 of 5827
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I'm just sad. This is so wrong. Not Bill Cosby wrong (thanks for ruining a good portion of my childhood you asshole), but still - wrong like a wrong-thing that's wrong in wrongville.
Tom Scola - Aug 24, 2017 9:26:30 am PDT #5683 of 5827
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500
I haven't been surprised much by any of this. There's always been undertones of this sort of thing in Joss's work. Always. I never took his Feminist reputation very seriously, and I've tended to see him as the kind of guy who signs up for Women's Studies classes primarily as a way to meet women.
Jesse - Aug 24, 2017 9:40:24 am PDT #5684 of 5827
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I've tended to see him as the kind of guy who signs up for Women's Studies classes primarily as a way to meet women.
OMG, so much that.
amych - Aug 24, 2017 10:29:00 am PDT #5685 of 5827
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
I've tended to see him as the kind of guy who signs up for Women's Studies classes primarily as a way to meet women.
YUP
beekaytee - Aug 24, 2017 5:27:04 pm PDT #5686 of 5827
Compassionately intolerant
OMG, so much that.
Seconded to infinity.
As has been said, I won't stop loving his products, up until now, but I will look at any future stuff with a jaundiced eye. I won't be able to help it.
Nora Deirdre - Aug 24, 2017 6:25:19 pm PDT #5687 of 5827
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
Hey, Frank!!!