Y'all see the man hanging out of the spaceship with the really big gun? Now I'm not saying you weren't easy to find. It was kinda out of our way, and he didn't want to come in the first place. Man's lookin' to kill some folk. So really it's his will y'all should worry about thwarting.

Mal ,'Safe'


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Kevin - Mar 09, 2009 9:00:51 am PDT #518 of 5827
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

They're not always, Jon, as I understood the pilot.

I like Topher. It's made clear in this episode he knows he's playing with fire I think, but at the same time he totally digs what he's doing. 'cos he's good at it. Our capacity to self justify is always something which has interested me.


Nora Deirdre - Mar 09, 2009 9:03:32 am PDT #519 of 5827
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

They're not always, Jon, as I understood the pilot.

Is this something that's been aired? Or the thing that is just a script that's been passed around.

I am starting to feel pretty resentful that apparently I should read something that wasn't even on the air in order to make sense of what has been shown. Not on. (not in particular to this point, but I've seen that around a lot, referring to that script as a way to clear things up, and I think that shows some poor regrouping by Fox and the Dollhouse team)


Kevin - Mar 09, 2009 9:11:27 am PDT #520 of 5827
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I meant from the aired pilot, not the unaired one. There was this problem with Firefly, like - people didn't even know why the ship was called Serenity at first, Reavers were introduced without having seen their ships or having a good description as to what they were etc.


Polter-Cow - Mar 09, 2009 9:23:57 am PDT #521 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

They're not always, Jon, as I understood the pilot.

I think that the woman who'd been molested by the guy was part of Echo's composite identity, but not all of it. I imagine there probably was someone pretty Taffy-esque that they stole from. Like they used "Taffy" as the base personality and then added to it for the specific imprint.

I am starting to feel pretty resentful that apparently I should read something that wasn't even on the air in order to make sense of what has been shown.

For the record, a lot of what was in the unaired script has now been aired. For instance, that scene about the Actives grouping.


§ ita § - Mar 09, 2009 9:26:05 am PDT #522 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Nora, they stated in at least two episodes, including this last one that they composite personalities. The hostage negotiator was a chimera, as was Taffy, IIRC.


Nora Deirdre - Mar 09, 2009 9:28:31 am PDT #523 of 5827
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

t is mollified

(Sorry, it's hot in my office and I have some general pigheaded frustrations with the show which may be leaking out inappropriately)


Kevin - Mar 09, 2009 9:38:09 am PDT #524 of 5827
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I have some general pigheaded frustrations with the show which may be leaking out inappropriately

Dude, I took Joss's letter about Captivity the other day and replaced 'Captivity' with 'Dollhouse'. I may be having the same problem.


Polter-Cow - Mar 09, 2009 9:50:34 am PDT #525 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Nora, they stated in at least two episodes, including this last one that they composite personalities. The hostage negotiator was a chimera, as was Taffy, IIRC.

But I think Kevin was saying that they're not always composites, and I don't think we've been told that there are imprints that are 100% one person.


§ ita § - Mar 09, 2009 10:03:53 am PDT #526 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think we've been told that there are imprints that are 100% one person.

My inferrence from the backup singer one was that she was one person with a subliminal imperative.


Laura - Mar 09, 2009 10:04:14 am PDT #527 of 5827
Our wings are not tired.

I didn't watch the last episode, and reading the posts hasn't made me feel bad about that.