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Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 07, 2014 8:14:53 am PDT #4157 of 5827
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I guess this episode definitely disproved the speculation that Simmons might be an unrevealed Hydra mole, if Garrett gave the kill order for both her and Fitz and Ward was willing to jettison them both.


Steph L. - May 07, 2014 8:47:27 am PDT #4158 of 5827
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I guess this episode definitely disproved the speculation that Simmons might be an unrevealed Hydra mole, if Garrett gave the kill order for both her and Fitz and Ward was willing to jettison them both.

Not really; Garrett was totally willing to let Ward die in the last episode. (Yes, he implied that he gave the order because he "knew" Skye wouldn't let it happen, but -- come on. He would have totally sacrificed Ward for the plan.) So Simmons could still be Hydra. I don't think she is, but she has been acting really oddly.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 07, 2014 10:50:42 am PDT #4159 of 5827
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

But would Simmons have kept cover even when being consigned to watery doom (yeah, right) by her superiors?


Steph L. - May 07, 2014 10:55:18 am PDT #4160 of 5827
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Like I said above, I don't think she is Hydra, so I can't really answer that question. I was just saying that *if* she were Hydra, Garrett has shown he has no problem killing other Hydra agents if it serves his endgame.


Dana - May 07, 2014 12:16:43 pm PDT #4161 of 5827
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

That poor dog. When Garrett came back (before I realized it was so much later), I thought "Ward killed the dog and ate it." Then when Garrett started shooting things, I thought "He's going to shoot the dog." But no, there was yet another possible death for the dog.

Bill Paxton is just not a good actor. I'm sorry, but I said it.


Sue - May 07, 2014 1:48:25 pm PDT #4162 of 5827
hip deep in pie

Bill Paxton is just not a good actor. I'm sorry, but I said it.

Oh, I am totally in that corner.


beekaytee - May 07, 2014 2:31:00 pm PDT #4163 of 5827
Compassionately intolerant

Me too.

He plays the same character, which sometimes works, but not so much in this case.


-t - May 07, 2014 3:13:11 pm PDT #4164 of 5827
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I kind of love Garrett. He's so cheerfully evil.

He's like Ron Swanson with no moral compass. Or a moral compass with the polarity reversed.

I love the file transfer protocol. LOVE!

I also love that Ward was Hydra before he was Shield (although not quite as much). I will not be pleased if he does get redeemed. Unless they really really surprise me and totally win me over, I suppose. But even if that happens I think I will resent it. If it happens which I hope it does not.


Jon B. - May 07, 2014 4:57:20 pm PDT #4165 of 5827
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I hoped I was wrong, but when I was not, I broke up with the show. Honestly. It was cheap, unnecessary emo-wringing and, frankly, working with abused dogs, like I have, I don't need to see the audience being schooled in how to prove you are tough by killing a loyal creature.

What did I miss? It looked to me like Ward let the dog go.


beekaytee - May 07, 2014 5:18:50 pm PDT #4166 of 5827
Compassionately intolerant

What did I miss?

He did let him go once, but then...crosshairs/bang.