Take me, sir. Take me hard.

Zoe ,'War Stories'


Jossverse 1: Emotional Resonance & Rocket Launchers  

TV, movies, web media--this thread is the home for any Joss projects that don't already have their own threads, such as Dr. Horrible.


dcp - May 07, 2014 5:27:19 pm PDT #4167 of 5827
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

What did I miss?

On re-watch: telescopic sight following the dog as it runs, loud mechanical sound as the scene shifts back to the plane in the present. The sound could have been a gunshot, could have been the release of the container from the plane, could have been both.

Was "Pablo Jimenez" a reference to anything?


quester - May 07, 2014 5:32:15 pm PDT #4168 of 5827
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

They come from warring factions on the planet of Winsome Big-Eyed Brunettes. Syke's parents were warriors of clan Just Say What You Mean, Goddamnit, while Raina's people hail from the Kingdom of Oblique Referrals.

This is AWESOME!

I actually thought when Raina said that Skye's parents were monsters "Skye's parents were Godzilla and Mothra?" then I realized it was the wrong country. That's how my brain works.


Polter-Cow - May 07, 2014 6:18:20 pm PDT #4169 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Was "Pablo Jimenez" a reference to anything?

Possibly a reference to artists Pablo Marcos and Phil Jimenez.


DCJensen - May 07, 2014 8:47:02 pm PDT #4170 of 5827
All is well that ends in pizza.

I made a Photoshop of the large file transfer:

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Which led to this:

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and this

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And because I'm not right in the head:

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DCJensen - May 07, 2014 8:49:53 pm PDT #4171 of 5827
All is well that ends in pizza.

I assumed Garrett had the scope, as Ward had a pistol.


sumi - May 08, 2014 5:02:35 am PDT #4172 of 5827
Art Crawl!!!

DC, that's what I thought.

I couldn't decide if that meant that Garrett went ahead and killed the dog since Ward didn't. Or if we were shown that just to know why Garrett still talks about Ward's weakness.


Jessica - May 08, 2014 5:09:49 am PDT #4173 of 5827
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Oh, I thought for sure Ward went back to kill the dog. It doesn't make sense for Garrett to have done it - his goal wasn't for Buddy to die, it was for Ward to kill him to prove he wasn't "weak." I think if Garrett knew Ward hadn't done it, he would have just gotten rid of Ward. (And so Ward went back to kill Buddy so he wouldn't get caught in his initial moment of weakness.)


Steph L. - May 08, 2014 5:14:41 am PDT #4174 of 5827
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Plus the episode made a point (as the show has before) about how great of a long-range shot Ward is, so he could have easily shot the dog with his rifle.


EpicTangent - May 08, 2014 8:37:18 am PDT #4175 of 5827
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

Or if we were shown that just to know why Garrett still talks about Ward's weakness.

This was my read. And why when Ward struggled with the decision about killing Fitz & Simmons, when he said something about liking them is his weakness, that was the last point made before he hit the button.

I think Buddy's "still" alive (10 years ago, large breed dog, so not so much until now, but then - still alive). Garrett didn't especially want the dog dead, he wanted Ward to prove he wasn't weak. I don't think he'd have bothered to kill the dog himself. Buddy wasn't a threat, just a symbol.


§ ita § - May 08, 2014 10:07:45 am PDT #4176 of 5827
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I want Ward to have killed the dog. That's harder to come back from, even if no one saw you do it.