I took the horror as more related to the fact that Ward had shot a man in cold blood who posed him no immediate threat, regardless of whether he was paralyzed or not.
Yeah. He's my hero.
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Polter-Cow - Apr 02, 2014 10:47:54 am PDT #3827 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
DCJensen - Apr 02, 2014 11:10:19 am PDT #3828 of 5827
All is well that ends in pizza.
They built up the catatonic guy pretty well, saying SHIELD originally thought he could manipulate people.
When Ward first shot the guy, I thought for a moment he had committed suicide by mental push.
Then I thought maybe ward had been mentally compromised by the clairvoyant.
Connie Neil - Apr 02, 2014 11:13:53 am PDT #3829 of 5827
brillig
Then I thought maybe ward had been mentally compromised by the clairvoyant.
And we still don't know that he wasn't. Or, heck, *he's* the Clairvoyant.
Polter-Cow - Apr 02, 2014 12:00:44 pm PDT #3830 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I thought the end of the episode pretty well established Victoria Hand as the Clairvoyant. Who has more security access than she does, besides maybe Fury?
Connie Neil - Apr 02, 2014 12:06:02 pm PDT #3831 of 5827
brillig
I thought she was too obvious--but they won't make a main character the villain, not Disney.
Polter-Cow - Apr 02, 2014 12:19:33 pm PDT #3832 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Yes, like that time Elsa wasn't the villain of Frozen.
(Sure, there was someone else, but I don't buy the Disney argument. Especially since I think this is in line with the Victoria Hand in the comics, which is why people had pegged her.)
Connie Neil - Apr 02, 2014 12:20:47 pm PDT #3833 of 5827
brillig
Elsa was a victim from the beginning and suffered from uncontrolled powers. The villains were that prince and the trade guy who wanted to take advantage.
Steph L. - Apr 02, 2014 2:04:23 pm PDT #3834 of 5827
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I thought the end of the episode pretty well established Victoria Hand as the Clairvoyant. Who has more security access than she does, besides maybe Fury?
Me, too. Giving the order to kill everyone on the bus -- except Coulson -- was pretty unambiguous.
I really thought it would be Garrett, though. It made me laugh that the whole show made it seem like just about anyone -- except Coulson -- could be the Clairvoyant.
(When Coulson finally put 2 and 2 together and realized the Clairvoyant had to be in SHIELD, Tim said, "Uh, fandom got there weeks ago, man." I'm so proud.)
Connie Neil - Apr 02, 2014 2:07:58 pm PDT #3835 of 5827
brillig
I was hoping Obvious Evil Replacement for Fury wouldn't be so obviously evil.
I did quite enjoy Coulson and Melinda staring down each other. And Fitz doing the "OMG, she can kill me with her pinky!" sidle out of the room.
Polter-Cow - Apr 02, 2014 2:13:52 pm PDT #3836 of 5827
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Me, too. Giving the order to kill everyone on the bus -- except Coulson -- was pretty unambiguous.
Do all her underlings know she's evil? I mean, what kind of justification is she giving for this order? Is all of S.H.I.E.L.D. evil? I suppose I will have to watch Captain America: Winter Soldier to find out!
(When Coulson finally put 2 and 2 together and realized the Clairvoyant had to be in SHIELD, Tim said, "Uh, fandom got there weeks ago, man." I'm so proud.)
Ha ha ha, right?? It was supposed to be this big dramatic moment and instead it was more like: WELL DUH.
I was hoping Obvious Evil Replacement for Fury wouldn't be so obviously evil.
You can tell she's evil because of the red streaks in her hair.